[bookport] Re: Web Braille -- Topic for Discussion
- From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:42:02 -0400
Well guess what; when you read it with your fingers, your brain converts it
to text also, so anyone who reads Braille is violating copyright law. If
NLS cared about this stuff, they would have asked APH and Kurzweil Education
Systems to stop distributing software which promotes the illegal use of
their materials.
Don
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Subject: [bookport] Re: Web Braille -- Topic for Discussion
When you send a BRF file to the Book Port it is converted to text.
Otherwise the Book Port would not be able to read the BRF file.
bruce
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, lana wrote:
> I missed something, here. If you have a book port, why the need to read in
> text?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Carter" <r-carter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:06 AM
> Subject: [bookport] Re: Web Braille -- Topic for Discussion
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Barbara, I am confident that the national library service does not have a
> problem with you reading
> web braille on either your book port or kurzweil.
>
> Robert Carter
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Barbara wrote:
>
>
>> I learned it from the NLS Librarian at the library in Sacramento. I told
>> her that I was going to read the files as text on Book Port and she said
>> that she didn't hear that. Also, it says on the Web-Braille sight that
>> the files cannot be converted into e-books and read as text. However, my
>> Kurzweil program let me download the .brf file as text without any
>> problem.
>>
>> Barbara
>>
>> Dan Keys <dnkeys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Hummmmmmmm!
>> Where did you get that. I've never read that in the what's aloud stuff.
>> Dan
>> On Jun 15, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Barbara wrote:
>>
>>> I figured it out. I used my Kurzweil program as you suggested and
>>> was able to download a Web-Braille file. According to NLS, did you
>>> know that it is illegal for us to read the .brf files from Web-
>>> Braille as text files? How does the group justify this? I justify
>>> it by feeling that anyway that we can get books is okay and that we
>>> are not distributing them to other people. Is that how everyone
>>> else feels? I wish that NLS would change its policy about only
>>> reading .brf files in braille form so that I wouldn't feel like I
>>> am committing a crime when I read the .brf Web-Braille files in
>>> text form. This is a topic for discussion if anyone cares to
>>> discuss it. Again, thanks for your help. Now, I have access to one
>>> more available reading source. The wonders of modern technology
>>> (smile).
>>>
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>>> Hi Barbara,
>>>
>>> the easiest thing to do is go to the NLS site
>>> www.loc.gov/nls
>>> and choose the quick Search. Search for a title and/or author, and
>>> put the words "web braille" without the quotes in the keyword box.
>>> Any results will include links to download the volumes. Before you
>>> can download, you have to enter your username and password, and
>>> each time you have to accept a pledge that you won't do anything
>>> dastardly with the files you download. If you're using a PC, be
>>> sure you choose the PC, not the notetaker button when you accept
>>> the pledge.
>>>
>>> If you happen to have Kurzweil 1000, you can use its online book
>>> search facility to find and download from Web-Braille. This has
>>> the advantage that book files are renamed to the book title, making
>>> it easier to find what you want. OpenBook used to work with Web-
>>> Braille, but I don't know whether it still does because the Web-
>>> Braille site changes often, and I don't know whether it's kept up
>>> with the changes.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I learned it from the NLS Librarian at the library in
>> Sacramento. I told her that I was going to read the files as
>> text on Book Port and she said that she didn't hear that.
>> Also, it says on the Web- Braille sight that the files cannot
>> be converted into e- books and read as text. However, my
>> Kurzweil program let me download the .brf file as text without
>> any problem. Barbara Dan Keys <dnkeys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello,
>> Hummmmmmmm! Where did you get
>> that. I've never read that in the what's aloud stuff. Dan On Jun 15,
>> 2007, at 8:22 PM, Barbara wrote: > I figured it out. I used my Kurzweil
>> program as you suggested and > was able to download a Web-Braille file.
>> According to NLS, did you > know that it is illegal for us to read the
>> .brf files from Web- > Braille as text files? How does the group
>> justify this? I justify > it by feeling that anyway that we can get
>> books is okay and that we > are not distributing them to other people.
>> Is that how everyone > else feels? I wish that NLS would change its
>> policy about only > reading .brf files in braille form so that I
>> wouldn't feel like I > am committing a crime when I read the .brf
>> Web-Braille files in > text form. This is a topic for discussion if
>> anyone cares to > discuss it. Again, thanks for your help. Now, I have
>> access to one > more available reading source. The wonders of modern
>> technology > (smile). > > Barbara > > Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > Hi
>> Barbara, > > the easiest thing to do is go to the NLS site >
>> www.loc.gov/nls > and choose the quick Search. Search for a title and/or
>> author, and > put the words "web braille" without the quotes in the
>> keyword box. > Any results will include links to download the volumes.
>> Before you > can download, you have to enter your username and
>> password, and > each time you have to accept a pledge that you won't do
>> anything > dastardly with the files you download. If you're using a PC,
>> be > sure you choose the PC, not the notetaker button when you accept
>>> the pledge. > > If you happen to have Kurzweil 1000, you can use its
>> online book > search facility to find and download from Web-Braille.
>> This has > the advantage that book files are renamed to the book
>> title, making > it easier to find what you want. OpenBook used to work
>> with Web- > Braille, but I don't know whether it still does because the
>> Web- > Braille site changes often, and I don't know whether it's kept
>> up > with the changes. > > HTH, > Anna >
>
>
>
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