Bravo Dave. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Allen To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 01 September, 2006 06 23 Subject: [bookport] Re: My suggestion about tactile markings Hi Anthony and list: I agree with you that companies should incorporate the features blind users require. I only think if we want something extra, we need to take some initiative of our own, which is a far simpler and cost effective solution. It seems to me that APH goes out of it's way to produce a quality product at a reasonable price in the book port, which they support with an equal degree of completeness. If the book port were merely an MP3 player, there are a number of other features it should probably have. But the book port is far more than that. This clearly isn't as big a problem as you suggest because I'm reasonably sure yours is the first mention of it in the over two years that I've been monitoring this list. Maybe APH will even incorporate your suggestion. That is OK. They can do that if they think it appropriate. Heck I didn't think the note taker was a useful idea when it was proposed. I was very wrong on that score, fortunately. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: My suggestion about tactile markings So what you are saying is companies should make absolutely no effort to make products more user friendly for people who can't see, I know I could do the labels my self but why should I have to The product is supposed to have been designed for people who can't see this is also reflected in the price that people pay for it it costs more because it is specially designed for people who are blind. If it was a cheap mp3 player I would agree with you but it isn't. Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: David Allen To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: My suggestion about tactile markings Hi Anthony and list: Regarding your suggestion about adapting earbuds, I'll share a bit of experience with you. Several months ago, I followed advice of several audiologists and purchased a set of hearing aids. In case some reading this are not aware, hearing aids require the use of an earmould, which is custom made to fit the person's ear. It is physically impossible to put the wrong aid into the wrong ear. Believe it or not, while you may have two ears, they are not enough alike to allow you to even attempt using the right aid in the left ear or vice versa. I needed a way of easily being able to know which aid was which so I wouldn't try to do the impossible. Each aid comes with it's own case. So I made small dymo labels L and R to attach to the cases. The point that I'm making here is that I didn't expect nor ask my audiologist, professional though he may be, to solve my problem. After all, it wasn't his problem, it was mine. I took charge of that problem and applied a reasonable solution that worked. Similar means could easily be found for "marking" earbuds to your liking. Please give it some consideration. Cheers, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: [bookport] My suggestion about tactile markings My point about the headphones was not that people didn't like them or found them difficult to use, it is about aph and good design of equipment for people who can't see. Both the headphones and batteries can be used the wrong way round and as this equipment is designed for people who can't see the print markings on the headphones or the symbols in the battery compartment surely aph should have have had enough experience to have thought about this issue and got it right. Also external speaker The belt clip might not be such a good idea but I don't want to use speakers from radio shack as someone suggested basically because I don't want lots of extra wires all over the place. There are times when the unit being equiped with a speaker might be of use. I came across a device called a griffin for an apple ipod, if you don't know what it is basically it is a small box with a 3.5 hack sticking out of the bottom of it and it sits on top of the ipod, it makes the unit a bit longer. I haven't tried one as I don't have an ipod but I would think aph could design something similar that when installed would look as if it was part of the bookport, they could either put a dummy usb plug to stop the speaker more stability or put a real usb plug with a socket in the top of the box so you could still plug in the usb cable with the speaker atached. Anthony -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006