Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign

  • From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:16:12 -0700

Hmm.  Google's audio CAPTCHA is all numeric.

Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! to 
make their CAPTCHA accessible!
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another 
person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Debbie Hazelton 
  To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:58 PM
  Subject: RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind 
People Allowed" Sign


  Well, it was odd, kept giving me an error, then it finally went through, at 
least that part of it, I hope, but now, no matter what I do, it isn't 
recognizing a password. Got more than 6 letters, even added caps and numbers.  
It just won't take it.  I've never seen this problem.


  All the best!
  Debbie Hazelton:
  Helping People Feel Better, one person at a time
  Check out my podcast and website:
  http://www.debbiehazelton.com






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  From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:09 PM
  To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind 
People Allowed" Sign


  Hi Debbie,

  You want to press enter on the link that says "Listen and type the numbers 
you hear".  I just tested it right now, and all is working as expected.



  Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! to 
make their CAPTCHA accessible!
  Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
  Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another 
person.
  Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
  Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Debbie Hazelton 
    To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:00 AM
    Subject: RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No 
Blind People Allowed" Sign


    Ok, and I just tried to set up a Gmail account.  When I got to the visual 
verification and clicked on the one for hearing, it did nothing.  It went to 
something that talked about hearing, but said to click on the accessibility 
icon.  I could not find it.  Doesn't appear to be labeled. I'm just wanting an 
alternate email address. gur'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r


    All the best!
    Debbie Hazelton:
    Helping People Feel Better, one person at a time
    Check out my podcast and website:
    http://www.debbiehazelton.com






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    From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
    Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:05 AM
    To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No 
Blind People Allowed" Sign


    Nah, I fully agree with Darrell on this.  When was the last time you got a 
call back from Yahoo to override your CAPTCHA lockout? HMMM? Gee, I tried 
several times over the past several years and I got absolutely NONE; that's 
right, NONE!.  Like others have said on this list, visual CAPTCHA by definition 
discriminates against the blind and anyone who uses it without alternatives is 
biggotted!

     


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    From: Allison Sheridan [mailto:asheridan@xxxxxxx] 
    Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:12 AM
    To: Darrell Shandrow
    Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; BlindNetDaily owners 
and primary contributors internal list.; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
friends@xxxxxxxxxxxx; blind_geek_zone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No 
Blind People Allowed" Sign

     

    Darrell - 

     

    I'm extremely offended by your description of Yahoo as being like the 
people who denied African Americans access during segregation. I understand 
that you don't feel the telephone callback scheme is sufficient, but to suggest 
that because it's more difficult is the same as segregation is offensive, AND 
inaccurate.

     

    I won't be signing this one because of the approach you're taking. working 
WITH people works better than insulting them and accusing them of egregious 
insults.

     

    Allison

     

    On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:





    We ask all of you to review and sign the Yahoo's Accessibility Improvement 
Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html asking the 
company to make an audio alternative to its CAPTCHA available so that the blind 
and visually impaired will be permitted timely access to the same services as 
those already granted the sighted. The use of a telephone callback scheme is 
totally insufficient as it does not grant the same level of instant access as 
the sighted and Yahoo personnel 
    do not consistently make contact in a timely manner. It is our ongoing 
contention that visual only CAPTCHA schemes without at least an accessible audio
    alternative represent "No Blind People Allowed" signs in much the same way 
as African-Americans were deliberately denied entry to restaurants and other
    similar public accomodations in the era of segregation. We ask Yahoo to 
simply fix their grievous error by promptly adding an audio CAPTCHA to all its
    properties as soon as possible as part of the company's ongoing 
accessibility initiatives.

    Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
    Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
    Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
    Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i

     

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