Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign
- From: "Gary Wood" <k8hlx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:29:59 -0500
I signed it as well, and left a comment, but I haven't yet read the other
comments that are there. It should be very interesting to read them!
----- Original Message -----
From: Debbie Hazelton
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:21 AM
Subject: RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind
People Allowed" Sign
Hi Darrell,
Just to say, I did sign, did write something, and I always trust what you get
behind and seek to improve. I appreciate your determination!
All the best!
Debbie Hazelton:
Helping People Feel Better, one person at a time
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http://www.debbiehazelton.com
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From: blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcasting-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:25 AM
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind
People Allowed" Sign
Hi Gary and all,
Oh, hmm, interesting, still trying to figure out exactly how my friend
Allison's response got onto the lists in the first place, but...
After being outright ignored for such a long time, and especially given the
emergence of numerous solutions, I have grown to feel that the continued lack
of an audio CAPTCHA on any web site is just absolutely inexcusable. The
technology is now tried and true on the web sites of billion dollar companies
like AOL and Google.
Visual-only CAPTCHAs, unlike many other accessibility issues, are inherently
designed to be passed only by a sighted person. If you can't pass the CAPTCHA,
you are automatically denied admission. Sight is required in order to be
permitted access, and blind people are usually ignored when we ask for help.
How is this anything other than the same kind of segregation that was stomped
out in the 1960's?
Segregation is really the only way I can find to explain the issue in a
non-technical manner to as many people as possible. One would hope that people
wouldn't want to be classified as segregators, and, thus, the public relations
aspects alone would ultimately cause Yahoo! and others to make things right by
providing an audio CAPTCHA.
Anyone can do a Google search for terms like "audio CAPTCHA" to find numerous
free tools, products and services that will provide a verification scheme that
is both audio and visual.
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another
person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Wood
To: blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No
Blind People Allowed" Sign
I don't know if that's a good choice of words that he may have used, but if
we can't have an accessible audio method of captia, then it seems like
segregation to me. Maybe segregation may be a poor choice of words, but it
feels that way to me. I'm sorry!
----- Original Message -----
From: Allison Sheridan
To: Darrell Shandrow
Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; BlindNetDaily
owners and primary contributors internal list. ; blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
friends@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; blind_geek_zone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No
Blind People Allowed" Sign
Darrell -
I'm extremely offended by your description of Yahoo as being like the
people who denied African Americans access during segregation. I understand
that you don't feel the telephone callback scheme is sufficient, but to suggest
that because it's more difficult is the same as segregation is offensive, AND
inaccurate.
I won't be signing this one because of the approach you're taking.
working WITH people works better than insulting them and accusing them of
egregious insults.
Allison
On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
We ask all of you to review and sign the Yahoo's Accessibility
Improvement Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/yabvipma/petition.html
asking the company to make an audio alternative to its CAPTCHA available so
that the blind and visually impaired will be permitted timely access to the
same services as those already granted the sighted. The use of a telephone
callback scheme is totally insufficient as it does not grant the same level of
instant access as the sighted and Yahoo personnel
do not consistently make contact in a timely manner. It is our ongoing
contention that visual only CAPTCHA schemes without at least an accessible audio
alternative represent "No Blind People Allowed" signs in much the same
way as African-Americans were deliberately denied entry to restaurants and other
similar public accomodations in the era of segregation. We ask Yahoo to
simply fix their grievous error by promptly adding an audio CAPTCHA to all its
properties as soon as possible as part of the company's ongoing
accessibility initiatives.
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
another person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at
http://ld.net/?nu7i
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