RE: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind People Allowed" Sign

  • From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcasting@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:05:16 -0700

Nah, I fully agree with Darrell on this.  When was the last time you got a
call back from Yahoo to override your CAPTCHA lockout? HMMM? Gee, I tried
several times over the past several years and I got absolutely NONE; that's
right, NONE!.  Like others have said on this list, visual CAPTCHA by
definition discriminates against the blind and anyone who uses it without
alternatives is biggotted!



From: Allison Sheridan [mailto:asheridan@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:12 AM
To: Darrell Shandrow
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Subject: Re: Visual Verification: Petition Asks Yahoo to Tear Down "No Blind
People Allowed" Sign


Darrell - 


I'm extremely offended by your description of Yahoo as being like the people
who denied African Americans access during segregation. I understand that
you don't feel the telephone callback scheme is sufficient, but to suggest
that because it's more difficult is the same as segregation is offensive,
AND inaccurate.


I won't be signing this one because of the approach you're taking. working
WITH people works better than insulting them and accusing them of egregious




On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

We ask all of you to review and sign the Yahoo's Accessibility Improvement
Petition at asking the
company to make an audio alternative to its CAPTCHA available so that the
blind and visually impaired will be permitted timely access to the same
services as those already granted the sighted. The use of a telephone
callback scheme is totally insufficient as it does not grant the same level
of instant access as the sighted and Yahoo personnel 
do not consistently make contact in a timely manner. It is our ongoing
contention that visual only CAPTCHA schemes without at least an accessible
alternative represent "No Blind People Allowed" signs in much the same way
as African-Americans were deliberately denied entry to restaurants and other
similar public accomodations in the era of segregation. We ask Yahoo to
simply fix their grievous error by promptly adding an audio CAPTCHA to all
properties as soon as possible as part of the company's ongoing
accessibility initiatives.

Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
another person.
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