Hi Ryan, I've pretty much created a footer as you described. I hope to hear back today from a couple of inquiries about why it is not being displayed. I've created it and it is sitting there, but it's not being attached to the messages for some reason. I wasn't aware you could modify the footer on a yahoogroup. I've never noticed one that was, and I don't recall seeing any option to customize it either when I was first setting it up or when I went back to take a look at settings later on. I'll have to go back again and really look for that. I think if yahoo did in fact offer customized footers, and the web site feature proved to be as good as freelists, I might be tempted to keep things with yahoo. In truth, the web interface with freelists is the only down side with them, and I still can't figure out how to get around easily and end up guessing at some things to finally get to the screen I'm looking for. Yahoo is much easier to access. Thanks for the comments and keep them coming. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan MacIsaac To: blind_diabetics@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: [blind_diabetics] Re: Help build the list and more Hi Dave, I think you are on the right track. The mock web page is a good start and I am sure you will get many suggestions on what to add. Both freelists and Yahoo groups allow you to do the same things with footers, web pages and member subscriptions. I don't think one is necessarily easier or harder to use - than the other it is just what people feel most comfortable with. Both lists allow people to simply reply to a confirmation message to get subscribed and - that should be the main concern - how easy is it for a new member to subscribe. A couple of other comments: When it comes to adding footers to list messages, it is better to keep it as simple as possible. You may want to add information on how to send a message to the list, how to unsubscribe and how to contact the list owner or moderator. Also, a link to the Blind Diabetics web page would be useful. Any more information than that may clutter up messages and add more work for the moderator. The idea about adding a page for web links and frequently asked questions is a good idea. It might also be a good idea to create a page for the list guidelines and tips for how to subscribe, unsubscribe and change other settings. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: blind_diabetics-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blind_diabetics-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dave Bond Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:34 PM To: blind_diabetics@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [blind_diabetics] Help build the list and more Hello to Ryan, Vicki, and Ruth, Well, as I stated on the blind-diabetics list, I am proceeding to create a new list for all of us, and I plan to go about it slowly. Although the subscribing method with freelists is a tiny bit confusing (to some more than others), in the end I think it may be a better place to be. One thing I really like, actually 2 things, are: One, the footer (the information that appears at the bottom of each message) is completely customizable, which means links and email addresses can be put there that would be totally relevant to our group, and second, we can have a web site, that like the footer, is completely customizable. And, one additional positive thing is something that will help us out initially, and that is that the moderator can add email addresses manually to subscribe people. Now, although a little tedious, I don't anticipate this to be too difficult since there aren't that many of us. If people were okay with it, they could be added in less than 30 minutes and then it would just be a matter of everyone making the adjustment in their address book. Now, I would love to have help in creating a couple of things that will enhance our group. First, we can have a link to a faq (frequently asked questions) file that would be in the footer, thus always accessible by just tabbing to it and hitting enter. I don't have such a document at hand, but perhaps someone has seen a good list of something like this somewhere. Or, perhaps someone wouldn't mind doing a little googling to find one. Next, I would like to have suggestions about what to put on the web page. These ideas can be anything related to blindness and/or diabetes. In the mock page I already have started, for instance, I have a link to the Prodigy site, along with a couple other links. So, if you have ideas, or even the links, just pass them along to me. Here's the link to the web page as it exists, but remember this is really just a mock site and will be much improved in time: //www.freelists.org/webpage/blind_diabetics Finally, please be completely (and brutally) honest with me as we move toward making a switch. If you don't like something, chances are someone else will not either. Thanks for your help. Dave