Actually, we have one great grandson and another one on the way. He
won't be here until sometime in March of 2020, but they've already
hung a handle on him. Jarvis Black. Not what I'd choose for him...if
anyone asked...which they did not.
But it seems to me that as long as sex is so darn much fun, we will
continue to see a population explosion. And far too many of us gain
great reward from having families.
It's difficult to know if we will over populate and over contaminate
this old planet until we become extinct, or if harsh conditions wipe
out enough of our members to a point where some survive.
Many of our closest friends have chosen not to bring children into
this mess. If I were starting life over again, I would be tempted to
have no children. But since I do have three super children, ten
grandchildren and 1.5 great grandchildren, I really love family get
togethers'. I think it has something to do with thousands of years of
conditioning.
Carl Jarvis
On 9/11/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,
You have grandchildren. Thank God I do not. But if we don't have a nuclear
war first, things are ending in about 30 years anyway when my daughters will
be around my age. Climate catastrophes will increase around the world,
refugees will swarm here to what will be our police state, the economic
inequality will have increased. Unless everyone in power experiences a
complete change of consciousness, it doesn't matter much who'll be the next
president.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:45 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] RE: [blind-democracy] Re:
[blind-democracy] FW: For the First Time in My Life I’m Against Impeaching
the President
I've got this hopeless feeling...and we're still a full year away from the
Primary. If we wind up with old Uncle Joe, we'll still be looking at the
last days of our once "Great Experiment". We need a strong, bright,
fearless Leader. Even an FDR will not do the trick.
Roosevelt basically saved the American Republic, but we do not want to save
what the United States has become; a Corporate Capitalism. It looks to me
like the very best the Democrats can promise is someone who will shore up
the sagging government. Then, in the next 4 or 8 years the Republicans will
return to gnaw on the bones.
Carl Jarvis
On 9/11/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Every petition I've seen, includes Russiagate. If the Dems start
impeachment proceedings with this Russia stuff as a prominent charge,
they will only accomplish Trump's re election. If they omit the Russia
stuff, there will at least be an investigation into his real crimes. I
think that as president, his worst may have been, inciting to violence".
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:49 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] FW: For the First
Time in My Life I’m Against Impeaching the President
Well, I think he is wrong not to demand the House begin impeachment
proceedings.
David Swanson might consider demanding that chairman Gerrold Nadler
investigate the documented violations and lies and misconduct by
Donald Trump, that threatens our Constitution.
Carl Jarvis: Nervously waiting for the Democrats next "compromise".
"...House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler has made clear that he
will use it to focus on the disastrous and counterproductive unproven
and unprovable claims of Russiagate rather than on the dozens of
indisputable public acts through which Trump has committed open and
acknowledged (and in some cases acknowledged by Nadler) impeachable
offenses."
On 9/11/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree with him. As a matter of fact, I responded to an email from
Common Cause asking me to sign a petition urging my congressman to
support impeachment yesterday by saying that I wouldn’t sign their
petition because it included allusions to Russiagate (Trump’s
obstruction of justice). I said that all of the other charges were
important and they, plus Trump’s mental incapacity, should have been
reasons for starting impeachment procedures immediately upon his
election and that Common Cause should be working to end the electoral
college.
Miriam
From: David Swanson via WarIsACrime.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:06 AM
To: miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: For the First Time in My Life I’m Against Impeaching the
President
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David Swanson
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I had hoped to make the above statement after electing a president
whom I did not consider a vile mass-murderous warmongering
climate-destroying threat to humanity. I’m saying it early. I’m
saying it while Trump is president.
But I’m not saying it because I’ve come to share any of the common
views
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president than whether presidents can be held accountable, so I’m not
quaking in fear of President Pence. I do not think an indictment is
useless without a conviction, so I’m not predicting doom and
demanding inaction. Nor have I gained the magical ability to foresee
the impossibility of conviction. Nor do I have any interest in
electing Democrats, much less the belief that more of them will be
elected the more they look like losers who will roll over and take
any abuse. I also think the failure to impeach Trump makes Trump more
likely to stay in office an extra four years — no matter how much he
squeals about being left in a briar patch.
The reason I’m against impeachment is that House Judiciary Chairman
Jerrold Nadler has made clear that he will use it to focus on the
disastrous and counterproductive unproven and unprovable claims of
Russiagate rather than on the dozens of indisputable public acts
through which Trump has committed open and acknowledged (and in some
cases acknowledged by Nadler) impeachable offenses.
Yes, yes, yes, someone in Russia may have bought an infinitesimally
small amount of very weird advertisements on Facebook.
Yes, of course, Trump has shady business dealings in Russia as in
every other part of the earth.
Yes, Trump has obstructed justice and refused to comply with
subpoenas in connection with Russiagate-ish things.
But a Russiagate impeachment is good for Trump and bad for humanity.
It amounts to an endless repetition of the basic truths that nobody
Russian, much less the Russian government, influenced the outcome of
the U.S.
election, that Trump never conspired with the Russian government to
influence the election, that Russia never hacked into election
machines or electricity grids, that Trump has not been a Russian
agent for decades, that Trump didn’t steal Democrats’ emails or give
them to WikiLeaks, that the content of those emails (the corruption
of the Democratic primaries, and the nastiness of the Democratic
nominee) were the reason for the invention of the Russiagate
distraction, and that the Democrats have made themselves look like
jackasses for three years.
All of this is bad for any hope of cleaning up actual problems with
the U.S.
election system, including the financial corruption, the media
failure, the electoral college, the two-party system, debate access,
ballot access, gerrymandering, unverifiable counts, racist roll
purging, and a candidate who openly intimidates and instigates violence.
Russiagate also creates a competition among its various supporters
and detractors to appear tougher than the other guy on Russia, more
eager to enflame hostilities, more prepared to consign us all to
nuclear apocalypse.
If Russiagate were a prescription drug, every “news” story about it
would have to have carried that warning: “Viewing this may increase
the risk of nuclear war.”
Russiagate is also horrible for impeachment. After making Trump look
good and his critics look like idiots, a Russiagate impeachment is
the most likely to fail in the House and if passed by the House to
fail in the Senate. The result will be a free pass, even more
powerful than the post-Bill-Clinton pass handed to George W. Bush,
for presidents to do simply anything without fear of impeachment.
Because, just as the Democrats blame Russia for their lousy election,
they will blame the impeachment process itself for their lousy
impeachment.
It didn’t have to be this way. I have been far from alone in
demanding
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have and should have happened in January 2017 on the grounds of
violation of both emoluments clauses of the U.S. Constitution.
Impeachment could have and should have happened when Trump tried to
ban Muslims, when he threatened nuclear war, when he took children
from their families and locked them up, when he abused the pardon
power, when he declared phony emergencies in order to violate the
law, when he failed to prepare for or respond to hurricanes, when he
waged wars and plotted coups and told various subordinates he’d have
their backs if they broke the law.
If impeachment at any point had reversed the offenses, had reformed
the policies — which is what impeachment efforts in the past have
usually done — that would have been a significant accomplishment.
Instead, Trump has been given immunity, and his brazenness has
increased accordingly.
Even now, impeachment hearings for the right reasons would educate
the public, and the media, and the Senators. But that will clearly
never ever happen. “Impeachment” simply means Russiagate to U.S.
Congress Members and television viewers. So, I am against it. At the
risk of having all the wrath of the impeachers redirected to myself,
let me say that I am in favor of friendship and peace with Russia,
and of survival for the human species.
You can forward this email to friends and people can join this list
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Swanson was awarded the 2018 Peace Prize by the U.S. Peace Memorial
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