Well, I think he is wrong not to demand the House begin impeachment
proceedings.
David Swanson might consider demanding that chairman Gerrold Nadler
investigate the documented violations and lies and misconduct by
Donald Trump, that threatens our Constitution.
Carl Jarvis: Nervously waiting for the Democrats next "compromise".
"...House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler has
made clear that he will use it to focus on the disastrous and
counterproductive unproven and unprovable claims of Russiagate rather
than on the dozens of indisputable
public acts through which Trump has committed open and acknowledged
(and in some cases acknowledged by Nadler) impeachable offenses."
On 9/11/19, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree with him. As a matter of fact, I responded to an email from Common
Cause asking me to sign a petition urging my congressman to support
impeachment yesterday by saying that I wouldn’t sign their petition because
it included allusions to Russiagate (Trump’s obstruction of justice). I said
that all of the other charges were important and they, plus Trump’s mental
incapacity, should have been reasons for starting impeachment procedures
immediately upon his election and that Common Cause should be working to end
the electoral college.
Miriam
From: David Swanson via WarIsACrime.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:06 AM
To: miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: For the First Time in My Life I’m Against Impeaching the
President
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For the First Time in My Life I’m Against Impeaching the President
By David Swanson
http://davidswanson.org/for-the-first-time-in-my-life-im-against-impeaching-the-president/
I had hoped to make the above statement after electing a president whom I
did not consider a vile mass-murderous warmongering climate-destroying
threat to humanity. I’m saying it early. I’m saying it while Trump is
president.
But I’m not saying it because I’ve come to share any of the common views
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of the matter. I do not think it matters more who is president than whether
presidents can be held accountable, so I’m not quaking in fear of President
Pence. I do not think an indictment is useless without a conviction, so I’m
not predicting doom and demanding inaction. Nor have I gained the magical
ability to foresee the impossibility of conviction. Nor do I have any
interest in electing Democrats, much less the belief that more of them will
be elected the more they look like losers who will roll over and take any
abuse. I also think the failure to impeach Trump makes Trump more likely to
stay in office an extra four years — no matter how much he squeals about
being left in a briar patch.
The reason I’m against impeachment is that House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold
Nadler has made clear that he will use it to focus on the disastrous and
counterproductive unproven and unprovable claims of Russiagate rather than
on the dozens of indisputable public acts through which Trump has committed
open and acknowledged (and in some cases acknowledged by Nadler) impeachable
offenses.
Yes, yes, yes, someone in Russia may have bought an infinitesimally small
amount of very weird advertisements on Facebook.
Yes, of course, Trump has shady business dealings in Russia as in every
other part of the earth.
Yes, Trump has obstructed justice and refused to comply with subpoenas in
connection with Russiagate-ish things.
But a Russiagate impeachment is good for Trump and bad for humanity.
It amounts to an endless repetition of the basic truths that nobody Russian,
much less the Russian government, influenced the outcome of the U.S.
election, that Trump never conspired with the Russian government to
influence the election, that Russia never hacked into election machines or
electricity grids, that Trump has not been a Russian agent for decades, that
Trump didn’t steal Democrats’ emails or give them to WikiLeaks, that the
content of those emails (the corruption of the Democratic primaries, and the
nastiness of the Democratic nominee) were the reason for the invention of
the Russiagate distraction, and that the Democrats have made themselves look
like jackasses for three years.
All of this is bad for any hope of cleaning up actual problems with the U.S.
election system, including the financial corruption, the media failure, the
electoral college, the two-party system, debate access, ballot access,
gerrymandering, unverifiable counts, racist roll purging, and a candidate
who openly intimidates and instigates violence.
Russiagate also creates a competition among its various supporters and
detractors to appear tougher than the other guy on Russia, more eager to
enflame hostilities, more prepared to consign us all to nuclear apocalypse.
If Russiagate were a prescription drug, every “news” story about it would
have to have carried that warning: “Viewing this may increase the risk of
nuclear war.”
Russiagate is also horrible for impeachment. After making Trump look good
and his critics look like idiots, a Russiagate impeachment is the most
likely to fail in the House and if passed by the House to fail in the
Senate. The result will be a free pass, even more powerful than the
post-Bill-Clinton pass handed to George W. Bush, for presidents to do simply
anything without fear of impeachment. Because, just as the Democrats blame
Russia for their lousy election, they will blame the impeachment process
itself for their lousy impeachment.
It didn’t have to be this way. I have been far from alone in demanding
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impeachment for the right reasons since before inauguration day. I have not
been the only one denouncing
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Russiagate since its birth. Impeachment could have and should have happened
in January 2017 on the grounds of violation of both emoluments clauses of
the U.S. Constitution. Impeachment could have and should have happened when
Trump tried to ban Muslims, when he threatened nuclear war, when he took
children from their families and locked them up, when he abused the pardon
power, when he declared phony emergencies in order to violate the law, when
he failed to prepare for or respond to hurricanes, when he waged wars and
plotted coups and told various subordinates he’d have their backs if they
broke the law.
If impeachment at any point had reversed the offenses, had reformed the
policies — which is what impeachment efforts in the past have usually done —
that would have been a significant accomplishment. Instead, Trump has been
given immunity, and his brazenness has increased accordingly.
Even now, impeachment hearings for the right reasons would educate the
public, and the media, and the Senators. But that will clearly never ever
happen. “Impeachment” simply means Russiagate to U.S. Congress Members and
television viewers. So, I am against it. At the risk of having all the wrath
of the impeachers redirected to myself, let me say that I am in favor of
friendship and peace with Russia, and of survival for the human species.
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was awarded the 2018 Peace Prize by the U.S. Peace Memorial Foundation.
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