As for Donald Trump, I read three books about him, all written by investigative
reporters and all of what they described corroborated each other's research and
observations, as did the several articles. And I have listened to him and read
his statements. And there is the content of his tweets. And then there are his
actions, appointments, presidential orders, the Muslim bans. So I don't think
that my opinion of him is based on TV appearances since, of course, I've never
watched him on TV, not once, because I don't have a TV. I have some limited
direct knowledge of how the Russian government works because I was involved
with adoptions from Russia. And I also did visit Russia in the 90's. I
certainly didn't get a positive impression of how the government works from
either experience. I visited China in the 90's also. China was a much more
appealing country. It was also much more organized in the way it handled its
tourists and it knew how to make tourists comfortable even though it was
obvious to us that we were in a police state. It was, I guess, slicker. Russia
didn't hide its problems as well. China made its poor people look picturesque.
There were tours of where they lived, or of certain places where they lived.
Russia didn't know how to do that sort of thing. We were on this cruise ship,
and calling it that is a compliment, which stopped in a rural area so we could
go to a peasant market. So to get there, we had this long walk from the river
bank up through some meadows. And at the river bank, there was this little boy,
very por, holding out a bunch of dirty carrots that he'd just pulled from the
ground, trying to sell them to us. Now remember, this was when the US was
starving Russia, and had installed Yelsen who was an incompetent drunkard.
Everyone in Russia wanted to go back to Communism. But the US free market
people were remaking Russia into a capitalist country which was why that little
boy was trying to sell us his carrots, so we'd give him enough money to buy
something to eat besides carrots. And Putin was voted in by the Russian people
to replace Yelsen and he did make things somewhat better for everyone. But
we're talking about Russia, not Denmark, not Utopia.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 12:36 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Why Don't the U.S. Mainstream Media Report
Vladimir Putin's Take on the Ukraine Crisis?
One of my problems in discussing personalities such as Putin, or even Donald
Trump, is the fact that my impressions are seen through the eyes of others,
mostly. Even Donald Trump. Remember, what we hear from his tweets and his 15
second voice clips, is all surface veneer, allowing us to see and hear only
what others decide we should have.
My rule of thumb is to begin with the notion that all of us are human beings
and that we all have certain similarities. So when I am presented with an
image of the Devil with horns and bat wings and a pitchfork, I'm immediately
wary. Perhaps this individual is a controlling murderer, or perhaps he is just
doing what all world leaders seem to feel they need to do. That is, control
and murder.
Including our American Empire Leader, it appears that controlling the people is
a basic requirement. Controlling the nations around us is also a requirement.
Keeping some nations at arms length and murdering some of their people in order
to make our point, is on the required list. Shutting down internal opposition
is important, so loud mouthed journalists must be quieted. Mexico crime cartel
does it the old fashioned way...kill them. But here in our advanced nation, we
threaten and harass them, and if that doesn't work we charge them with crimes
full of gobble dee gook and toss them in prison.
Did we think of Barack Obama the same way we are told to see Vladimir Putin?
What about all our noble leaders from FDR forward? I say FDR because he was
the president when I entered the world, but we could go on back. Isn't there
blood on the hands of all these men? And would Hillary Clinton bring a
"woman's touch" to the president's office? Of course not. So we go about
cursing the world leaders we are told to curse, and hating the mean spirited
people of nations we are told to hate, without ever stopping to notice that if
we looked in the mirror we would see ourselves in their place. But hey! Isn't
it easier and quicker, too if we just grab up our trusty old musket and head
out to murder those who dare to think or look different than us?
Carl Jarvis
On 6/16/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bob,
Putin is not Stalin. Putin is not an angel, not someone to be loved,
but he isn't who you think he is either because who you think he is,
has been influenced by what the mainstream media have told you. That's
why they were so angry at a film maker who was willing to buck the
tide. The fact is that we all think that we know what is going on
because we hear stuff or read stuff. But our information is so very
limited. Every day, I learn facts about things that happened in the
past that I didn't know, or things about subjects that I thought I
knew, but I only had a superficial view. Here's one thought I just
had. Which autocrat was it to whom we sent people captured from
Afghanistan and surrounding areas to be tortured? Was it to Putin,
this terrible person whom we say is like Stalin? No. We sent them to
Syria. Think about that. We want to get rid of the leader of that country,
but we thought it was just fine to send prisoners there to be tortured.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 9:10 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Why Don't the U.S. Mainstream Media
Report Vladimir Putin's Take on the Ukraine Crisis?
Once again, Parry writes an informative article here. Sad how our Wall
Stream media seems bent on painting things in a simplistic good guy
VS. bad guy style. No doubt about it, the US and NATO must share in
the blame for the unrest in Ukraine and the Crimea.
But, do be cautious when saying that Putin appears human. Never do
forget the negative aspects of being human. Like Stalin before him,
those who oppose Putin have a way of disappearing. Stalin's weapon of
choice was either a gun or a one-way trip to Siberia while Putin's
weapon of choice seems to be poison. Then again, the American weapons
of choice range from the use of CIA and special forces operators to
the drone. Any whay you look at it, we humans have a long way to go
and when it comes to violence, we're still headed in the wrong direction.
Bob Hachey
Bob Hachey
