[blind-democracy] Re: Very Hard Sell

  • From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 21:58:14 -0400

Okay, I thought you meant that the organization or the convention itself was sponsored by some corporation or corporations.


On 7/30/2016 9:27 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:


Roger, exactally that was my point that all venues are sponsored. We started this when someone else asked why it had to be in the Wlls Fargo arena and not in somewhere with no corporate sponsorship and I replied that they all are. To that you replied that the SWp holds it at that college wich is not sponsored. What you said below is exactally my point.

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*Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Very Hard Sell

The SWP still has no corporate sponsorship. If it is going to have conventions, though, it has to have somewhere to have them. What place should be used? An open field? Even that is likely to belong to some corporation. Perhaps the bank holding a farmer's mortgage.

On 7/30/2016 5:17 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

    Roger, it has to do with the fact that the reason it was named
    after that person is due to the large endowment from Alcola tha
    the college received. My only reason I bring it up was that you
    said the SWP convention had no corporate sponsorship for its
    venue. To steal an Alice phrase, the ship has sailed. Every large
    venue is propped up by corporate sponsorship of some sort.

    Frank

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    Loran Bailey
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    When I was there it seemed like there were more than 501 people in
    there. Or perhaps we are talking about two different places on
    campus. I was in a packed auditorium, but the actual convention
    sessions were held in some kind of facility on the very end of the
    campus. I think it might have been some kind of sports arena. But
    so what? And what does whatever or whomever it was named after
    have to do with anything?

    On 7/30/2016 6:22 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:

        Roger, first of all their auditorium only seats 501, wouldn’t
        work for any major party. Secondly, and more importantly, it
        is named after and honors the Alcooa corporation, one of the
        worst poluters:

        
https://new.oberlin.edu/student-life/facilities/detail.dot?id=16613&buildingId=30174

        Frank

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        *Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Very Hard Sell

        The SWP always holds its conventions on the Oberlin College
        campus with no corporate sponsorship.

        On 7/29/2016 9:21 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

            Where would you hold it? Comcast center? Citi (bank)
            field? Bank of America pavilion? TD Bank Garden? Like
            Alice said the ship has sailed corporate sponsorship of
            public venues is here to stay.

            Frank

            PS. BTW have you been to a national convention of any
            organization for PWDs? Take a look at those corporate
            sponsors.

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            *Subject:* [blind-democracy] Re: Very Hard Sell

            HI

            I don’t think Hilary will really do anything she says she
            will.  She will say anything people want to hear, then do
            what the big money wants. If she were really going to do
            anything.  Why was the convention held in the Wells Fargo
            convention center.

            Marsha


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