Carl thinks that rationality can be delivered with gentle story telling while
you believe that logical argument will do it. It must be a male trait, this
unwillingness to admit defeat.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 3:54 PM
To: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>; blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Mostafa <mostafa.almahdy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Roger, blind democracy grand finale and Chicago
Just that part about Presbyterianism is likely to set him off too I hope you
know.
On 8/7/2018 10:42 AM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
For the record, Mostafa, "Virginian Atheist" is incorrect. Roger
resides in West Virginia, so he would be actually a West Virginian
Atheist.
Although I was born and raised in Washington state, my family came
from West Virginia, from a town named Grafton. My grandfather was a
miner who left West Virginia for the mines in Oklahoma and Missouri.
My dad was born in a small town named Webb City, a suburb of Joplin,
Missouri. After my Grandfather's death due to Black Lung, Grandmother
Jarvis and my dad relocated first in Idaho and later in Washington
state, in Spokane.
Grandmother Jarvis was a devout Presbyterian. Her mother was also a
good and Faithful Presbyterians. She was a niece of Jefferson Davis,
and she married a man who owned a small plantation. Great Grandfather
Thomas Hickman not only owned a plantation, he owned several Black
Slaves. By the time Grandmother Jarvis was born, 1874-1960, slavery
had been forbidden in America, but the former slaves continued working
and living on the plantation because they had nowhere else to go.
Freedom changed very little in their lives. My dad, 1912-2001, was
raised during times of extreme oppression of the Working Class, and
the upheaval of that Class demanding a fair share of the nation's
great wealth. Dad became a Radical, organizing labor unions and
rallies. Because of his mother's refusal to do more than preach to
him from her Bible, he also rejected religion and declared himself to
be an Atheist. Like Roger, the West Virginian Atheist, Dad was a
thoughtful man, highly intelligent.
The people my parents associated with were mostly of the same level.
They cared for People. They could see the damage organized religions
of all sorts had inflected on the Workers of the World, and rejected
it out of hand.
For you to fail to understand this long struggle of the down trodden,
and to call thoughtful people "ignorant", is obscene on your part. In
fact, it makes you no different than those people you rail against.
While I understand the deep hatred you and your People feel, having
been shoved around by the American Empire, you demonstrate no ability
to learn from that cruel treatment. Your People, given the
opportunity to become the "True Way", would be no different than were
the American Empire, the British Empire, the Spanish Empire, the Roman
Empire, and all of the Empires from Egypt to China.
Empires seek control and wealth. They do nothing but enslave the
working classes. And just as long as you, Mostafa, hitch your wagon
to the "True Allah", and cling to your ancient, erroneous beliefs, you
and I will never agree. Time will tell which of us comes closer to
the Truth. But do not look for me in the Hereafter. It does not
exist, and I will not be there.
Cordially,
Carl Jarvis
On 8/7/18, Mostafa <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I do not give the least consideration to what was written below. I
therefore deleted it. Atheism has been flawlessly defeated. Each and
everyone here recognises the totally vilipended status of this list.
Everyone here has either Jewish or Christian background. Because of
the perfect irreverence in either Hebraism or mass Christendom,
people became atheists. What type of people are here? They are senior
purblind citizens, residing in many regions of the United States.
Mostly,, they do not have much to do. They therefore occupy their
time recirculating posts from external websites, blogs or whatever.
This list lacks credibility. I return the dissing to Roger in particular.
Despite his emptied philosophical rhetoric, he is massively stupefied.
I won't ever be convinced of the fallacious conception which Roger
opted to espouse. He exemplifies typical mental confusion of his
country. His mind is dimmed and his speech is slurred. He is struck
with his disarray and improper demeaner. Atheism is just a refuge he
resorts to. Nevertheless, he lacks identity. Americanism lacks
identification in its all forms. All attempts to manipulate my way of
thinking have been spoilt. I firmly stick to my culture and heritage.
Roger and others here have no culture, no heritage and no
identification. They therefore attempt to buy one. Despite this
list's theoretical criticism of Israel and its savage policies, its
members won't ever change the fact that their country is merely
Zionist's bootlick. Israel is a prominent nation of prevalent
Atheism. Southern evangelists give full backing to this irreligious
entity. Thence, I consider Atheism and Christendom to be wholly
amalgamated. I urge each and everyone here to fathom the following. I
do not destine to give the least consideration to the Atheistic
portrait of this list. Now, to Chicago's brutal weekend, where
sixty-six people shot and twelve heartlessly murdered. This hasn't
ever been unusual to the United States. It's in fact the norm
therein. Congress representatives are enormously infructuous in the face of
the National Rifle Association.
Weapon merchandise prevails, greed supersedes law enforcement in
this country. And as for the second amendment and its plain
misinterpretation, there is no one jurist dares to challenge the
grave misconstrue of this text, because he will then be challenging
the highest authority of torrential rifle dispersion. No one cares
who pulls the trigger, as long as money pores in. People have been
utterly desensitised whenever they hear about such incidents.
America's adherence to ethical principles is substantially oppugned.
I certainly ascertain, that without genuine religious devotion, this
embarrassing crisis won't ever be solved. Atheists who primarily
dominate and technically operate this list decline this proposition.
They base their rejection on prideful temperament and anti religion
sentiment. I seriously do not know, what for are you criticising
Donald Trump? If he represents alt-right, you are equally
representing political left-wing, which promotes radical secularism
and despises religious practices. Roger finds it so easy to
unjustifiedly ridicule faith. His mind lies in the deep bottom of the
sewage of American culture. I seriously never encountered such level
of ignorance. He certainly made a record with his unprecedented
nescience which is combined with incomparable insolence. He doesn't
discern syllogism. He is deplorably detestable and imprecise. He
opposes the Call of the Minaret. He is a fraudster and an enemy to
knowledge and proper character. He drammatically abandons all
rational tenets to useless philosophisation. It is a vicious cycle,
attempting to converse with this Virginian Atheist. It is really a waste of
time and energy.
Lastly, Roger resembles American prejudice, bigotry and derision in
the clearest way possible.
