Evan hit the nail on the head when he wrote, "...The problem is what
happens after the revolution..."
Violence begets Violence. Revolution merely results in the transfer
of control, regardless of what the people have been told. At the same
time, when was the last peaceful revolution? Even most Coups are
violent overthrows of the existing Regime. The take over of our
democratic Republic by the Pentagon, has been a slow process with
little violence and only a small number of lives lost. But the
Pentagon was given great power following the US involvement in World
War II, and the many wars which followed. We, the Working Class, were
sold a bill of goods, believing we were under threat and needed to
police the world. The International Corporations that flourished from
their marriage to the Pentagon, has made them wealthy beyond belief.
But as always, greed drives the desire to control all. The clash will
come between the Corporations and the Pentagon. Both will enter the
battlefield using their Faithful Subjects to do their fighting.
Unless we, the common people, can stem the tide, our children and
grand children will be sacrificed.
Carl Jarvis
On 10/25/18, Mary Otten <maryotten@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, I am definitely very much to the left of center, especially what
passes for center in the United States today, on social and economic issues.
And I most definitely do not support the current economic system. On the
other hand, I can’t support violent revolution, although when the doors to
peaceful change are slammed shut, eventually, there will be violence and it
will not be pretty. I would much prefer peaceful change. But people with a
lot of power don’t tend to give it up easily, all you have to do is look
around at voter suppression attempts throughout this country and various
other shenanigans on the part of the party in power in all three branches of
th well, I am definitely very much to the left of center, especially with
passes for Center in the United States today, on social and economic issues.
And I most definitely do not support the current economic system. On the
other hand, I can’t support violent revolution, although when the doors to
peaceful change are slammed shut, eventually, there will be violence and it
will not be pretty. I would much prefer peaceful change. But people with a
lot of power don’t tend to give it up easily, are you have to do is look
around at voter suppression at times throughout this country and various
other shenanigans on the part of the party in power in all three branches of
the federal government today. Who was it that said power corrupts. And
absolute power corrupts absolutely? That seems to have been born out and all
manner of systems throughout history. The Soviet union. Communist China.
Fascist Germany and Italy. And certainly do United States of America today.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I would like to add my voice to the welcomes, Mary.
I've seen you on other lists. You seem pretty tech savvy, which is cool.
I am also new here. I joined last week. On social issues I'm definitely
left of center, but on economic issues I'm in the center, or maybe even a
bit to the right. I support the current economic system. I defend the
"capitalist running dogs" around here. (Yes, some people actually talked
like that in the 20th century. Fortunately, humanity has moved on since
then. Mostly that is.)
Seriously though, I am more than happy to talk about shortcomings of the
current economic model and how to fix them, but I'm not interested in
revolution. I'm with John Lennon:
But when you talk about destruction,
Don'tcha know that you can count me out.
So once again, welcome. I hope you enjoy it here.
Evan
-----Original Message----- From: Carl Jarvis
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:50 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: New member
Hello and welcome, Mary.
If you have a natural curiosity and a sense of adventure, you've come
to the right list. We do try hard to stay on target and not fall into
name calling, as happens on the ACB chat list at times. But a good
sense of humor and a moderately thick skin, and you'll soon be right
at home.
As for me, besides being Carl Jarvis, I am a self proclaimed
Progressive, an Agnostic, and 83 years old. My wife and I provide
services to older blind and low vision folks on the Great Olympic
Peninsula, through our organization named, Peninsula Rehabilitation
Services. We've been at it almost 24 years and have worked with well
over 3,000 clients. I'm totally blind...for the past 55 years. Cathy
and I work as a team since living here in the deep, dark forest does
not allow a blind man the ability to travel to many of our clients
alone.
And just for the record, eating, sleeping, working, vacationing and
breathing the same air day after day finds us still deeply in love
with one another.
Carl Jarvis
(PS. Cathy's horse is down this morning. She's called the vet and is
trying to get him up and moving. I was going to buy a new keyboard
today, but it's looking as if I'll have to make do with these sticky
keys for a while longer.)
On 10/23/18, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Mary,
This list is suddenly becoming busy. We've acquired two new members and
will, I believe, be acquiring another one. It's an ill wind that blows
no
good, they say. I do believe we can thank Mr. Trump for the rejuvenation
of
this list. At any rate, I'll forward one of the Real News Network digests
to
the list. It's a website which has excellent little news videos that you
can
listen to and also, there's a text of each one, I believe. I'll forward
one
of the digests. You go to the heading of the story in which you're
interested, which is also a link, and then, you move down until you find
a
play button and press enter. If you find the website, you can sign up
for
your own digests. The website is in Baltimore. Its founder, Paul Jay,
comes
from Canada, and it does national, international, and local Baltimore
news.
Some of my favorite people are on there: max Blumenthal, Ben Norton,
Dean
Baker, etc.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:44 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] New member
Hi folks,
I just joined this list, of whose existence I had no idea until a friend
forwarded me a book recommendation from one of the BARD lists, where
this
list was mentioned. I recognize Miriam's name from the bookshare list of
many years ago. We liked lots of the same books on political/historical
topics. Anyway, I joined out of curiosity to see what the list was like.
I've seen a couple posts, one of which mentioned the real news network,
with
which I am not familiar. what is it?
Mary
