[blind-democracy] Re: FW: After You DB82661

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:36:51 -0500

Frank,

I get it. But at least for those people who can use it, please let it be
there. And for those of us who have advanced players, come on, it would be a
big help to me and I'm elderly. My husband ran the rehab teaching department
for Helen Keller Services and 99% of his clients were newly blinded elderly
people, and back then, I was a young social worker and they were my clients
too. I know them. But there was an old lady who learned enough braille when
she was in her late 60's to actually read braille books. So, there's always
hope.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:36 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: After You DB82661

Miriam, I work with many elderly blind persons and I agree with Bob. Even
the addition of one extra control can be a deal breaker.
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:52 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: After You DB82661

Bob,

First of all, most of the elderly would probably have difficulty with the
advanced player. That's the model that I have but it does have many more
controls. If they'd added the control to the standard player, it would be
just one more control on a very simple player. But I suspect that perhaps
they could do something when they're converting the books to daisy format
from the commercial production. And no, as I've just explained to Penny,
these changes of volume from loud to soft which go on constantly, every time
there's dialogue, make finding an appropriate volvume level to set the
machine at, very difficult. The book that i contacted NLS about was a
problem, because the narrator treated reading the book as if it were a
conversation, rather than a story to be told.

Miriam

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:56 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: After You DB82661

Hi Miriam,
No doubt that there is a real issue here for any NLS patrons who are hard of
hearing. No doubt that there is far less quality control with the commercial
audio books. I like the idea of an extra control on the player, but, having
worked with elders new to blindness I can see whuy they might not want to
add another control to the player.
If I had read this message 15 years ago I would have laughed at the idea
that one more control might make the player too complex for some, but after
working with the elderly, I do see their point.
Here's an idea that might work though it is too bad this wasn't implemented
when they began manufacturing the digital players. AS it is now, there are
two models of the player, the basic and the advanced. The advanced has
additional controls for changing from level 1 to level 2, 3 or 4 just like
you see on the Stream. IT also has the previous and next buttons and an
information button. They could have added the control you want to this
player. That way, if a patron had trouble hearing the books with the basic
player, the advanced player could solve the problem.
AS it is now, the problem would have to be solved by means of an exernal
amplified speaker or headphones.
By the way, have you tried using a headset or earplubs, and did that make
the books easier to hear?
Bob Hachey





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