[blind-chess] Re: chess puzzle, reprinted. come on, give it a try ! it's fun.

  • From: Michael Allain <shoodacooda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 14:17:45 -0400

i understand what your saying , but it isn't forced.

that is what they call a "helpmate"

when black cooperates with white.

there is only one way to force checkmate, but are getting closer.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "alvin blazik" <ablazik@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: chess puzzle, reprinted. come on, give it a try ! 
it's fun.


Michael,
Look at my answer. The problem can be solved by capturing the Rook and at 
the same time putting the
King in Checkmate, which my solution does.
It is a second solution.
Alvin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Allain" <shoodacooda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: chess puzzle, reprinted. come on, give it a try ! 
it's fun.


white can't take the rook because then it's a stalemate, a draw.

black has no other moves.

hee hee.

but there is one way for white to win and checkmate black.

regards, mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rebecca Redmile" <amrywoddyddiauheulog@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: chess puzzle, reprinted. come on, give it a try !
it's fun.


Well then the bishop could just take him Bx14. That's why, if I were black I
wouldn't do it.
Rebecca

On 2010-05-09, at 5:39 PM, Michael Allain wrote:

> hi Rebecca !,
>
> thanx for trying, but that's not it.
>
> after the first move of Ka3, then black plays Ra4 check !
>
> then what ?
>
> try again.
>
> mike A.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rebecca Redmile" <amrywoddyddiauheulog@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:28 AM
> Subject: [blind-chess] Re: chess puzzle, reprinted. come on, give it a try
> !
> it's fun.
>
>
> 1. Ka3 Rf8 for what it's worth
> 2. Pc8Q+ Rxc8
> 3. Qxc8++
> Very sad. Black didn't have a chance.
> Rebecca
>
> On 2010-05-09, at 3:08 PM, Michael Allain wrote:
>
>> hi Alvin,
>>
>> that would be a draw, there is a way for white to checkmate black.
>>
>> of course the problem is for white to stay out of check of black's rook.
>>
>> black's rook can never be taken because then it would be stalemate since
>> black has no other moves.
>>
>> for those of you who want to give the chess puzzle a try, it is below.
>>
>> thanx to Jorge Mendoza, a nice fellow  living in Spain, who gave me this
>> puzzle.
>>
>> hi folks !!,
>>
>> here is a chess puzzle for you.
>>
>> in algebraic notation.
>>
>> white: Rh4, Kb4, Qc3, Bb3, Nd3, B e3, Nf3, Pg4, Pb6, Pc7.
>>
>> Black: Ka8, Pb7, Rf4+.
>> white to win by checkmating black, in an unspecified number of moves.
>>
>> right now, black's rook on f4 is checking white's king on b4.
>>
>> good luck.
>>
>> mike A.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "alvin blazik" <ablazik@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:11 AM
>> Subject: [blind-chess] : Alvin, Re: Answer to: a chess puzzle in
>> algebraic
>> notation.
>>
>>
>> and my second answer is:
>> 1. Kb5 Rb4+
>> 2. Ka5 Ra4+
>> 3. Kb5 Rb4+
>> 4. Ka5 Ra4+
>> 5. Kb5 Ra5+ Black avoids losing by the 3 moves repeated rule.
>> 6. Qxa5++
>> Yes or no?
>> Alvin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael Allain" <shoodacooda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:27 PM
>> Subject: [blind-chess] Alvin, Re: Answer to: a chess puzzle in algebraic
>> notation.
>>
>>
>> hi Alvin !,
>>
>> nice try, but after your move of Bc4, then black plays Rxc4 check.
>>
>> hee hee, try again,
>>
>> regards, mike A.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "alvin blazik" <ablazik@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "blind Chess" <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 7:39 PM
>> Subject: [blind-chess] Answer to: a chess puzzle in algebraic notation.
>>
>>
>> And my answer is:
>> 1. Bc4 Rxf3
>> 2. c8=Q++
>> Right or wrong, please let me know.
>> Alvin
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael Allain" <shoodacooda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:35 PM
>> Subject: [blind-chess] a chess puzzle in algebraic notation.
>>
>>
>> hi folks !!,
>>
>> here is a chess puzzle for you.
>>
>> in algebraic notation.
>>
>> white: Rh4, Kb4, Qc3, Bb3, Nd3, B e3, Nf3, Pg4, Pb6, Pc7.
>>
>> Black: Ka8, Pb7, Rf4+.
>> white to win by checkmating black, in an unspecified number of moves.
>>
>> right now, black's rook on f4 is checking white's king on b4.
>>
>> good luck.
>>
>> mike A.
>>
>> P.S. i figured it out in 30 minutes. ha ha !
>> --- 
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