[bksvol-discuss] Re: this is pathetic
- From: Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 11:10:16 -0400
It still takes time to look for pertinent topics. Maybe other are more
skillful than I, and don't take so long. Of course, that assumes people have
pertinent subject lines, also.
Tracy
At 09:33 AM 10/9/05 -0500, you wrote:
>Honestly, some of us just rarely read the list. Only if a topic line
>catches our eye.
>Nehemiah
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 8:52 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: this is pathetic
>
>
>> Rui,
>> I'm one of those annoyed people. No wonder so many submitters don't want
>> to
>> be bothered to join this list. I often wonder how people get any
>> validating
>> or scanning done at all; reading this list can take all my limited free
>> time.
>> Tracy
>>
>> At 02:11 AM 10/9/05 -0400, you wrote:
>>>Greetings:
>>>
>>>It seems people don't realize that their irresponsible and utterly
>>>misinformed statements get archived by freelists.org and are searchable,
>>>both on freelists and on google to an extent.
>>>
>>>I am pretty disgusted at this point!!!
>>>
>>>If some people spent more time scanning and validating and less time
>>>whining, we would be better off.
>>>
>>>If anyone wants to chew me out, feel free!!
>>>But do it off list.
>>>I can't tell you how many people I have talked to on this list who are
>>>annoyed at the amount and content of the traffic.
>>>
>>>So, my direct flame line is:
>>>goldWave@xxxxxxx
>>>
>>>have a pleasant evening.
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:29 PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
>>>
>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>> Read BookShare's business plan as published in 2003. Do a Google search
>>>> and you'll find it.
>>>>
>>>> BookShare, while it is under the auspices of Benetech, is a business.
>>>> As
>>>> a business, it seeks customers and hopefully will get them to renew year
>>>> after year.
>>>> That's how, in part, it hopefully hits its membership targets and, in
>>>> the
>>>> process,
>>>> raises cash to pay its bills, hire staff, grow, improve its software,
>>>> and
>>>> all the rest.
>>>> To gain and keep those customers, it has to provide services people will
>>>> pay for; and to get people to pay for them,
>>>> those services it has to be in the forms folks want them.
>>>> And the more those services meet expectations, not only do you gain
>>>> additional paying customers, you might be able to raise rates to boot.
>>>>
>>>> My point is this: Benetech and BookShare has a vested interest, and far
>>>> great bargaining and lobbying potential, to convince a vendor to provide
>>>> added support for their products.
>>>> Moreover, they have to provide whatever source code, linkings, and
>>>> whatever technically is required so that these 3rd parties can get their
>>>> software to properly handshake.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I can drop a note to Kurzweil, Freedom Scientific, et al; but the
>>>> companies working together have a far greater chance of putting
>>>> something
>>>> together, including marketing agreements,
>>>> that ultimately can lead to something.
>>>>
>>>> And making suggestions, Gerald, isn't complaining. It's thinking about
>>>> what one uses and trying to figure out how to possibly improve it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And as a Bookshare customer, the more valuable the end product, the more
>>>> willing I am to pay higher prices which potentially adds to the
>>>> Bookshare
>>>> income stream.
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, one of the interesting nuggets gleamed from this business
>>>> plan is a hope of eventually being able to partner with publishers and
>>>> sell etexts to customers via the web.
>>>> This, if it can be brought about, has great benefits for customers as
>>>> they
>>>> would have publisher quality books for the download and provide
>>>> BookShare
>>>> a new income stream as they'd pocket a portion of the sales price as
>>>> revenue.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't realize this when writing earlier today; but Jim Fruchterman
>>>> and
>>>> I see much the same possibility at some distant point down the road.
>>>>
>>>> As an end user, it matters little to me if the book sharing, borrowing,
>>>> purchasing and the like comes from Bookshare or someone else. What
>>>> matters, as a customer, is that it exists; and if it is available from
>>>> multiple sources, all the better.
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, in its business plan which in part is targeted at
>>>> potential
>>>> donors, it is argued that there are major barriers to entry by
>>>> competitors.
>>>> Not truly understanding the costs of establishing and operating a file
>>>> sharing system, and that is what BookShare in essence currently
>>>> resembles,
>>>> I have no idea if this blowing smoke or reality.
>>>> What I do know is that if BookShare was able to support a budget
>>>> equivalent to RFB&D,
>>>> the end results would far outstrip RFB&D's book production and
>>>> availability.
>>>>
>>>> Getting back to the original point of Bookshare working with 3rd vendors
>>>> such as Kurzweil or Freedom Scientific, one of the possibilities would
>>>> be
>>>> having books distributed in .kes or .ark as part of the daisy bundle.
>>>> So what would that mean to either Freedom Scientific or Kurzweil, as an
>>>> example, it would give them a new marketing tool for which Bookshare
>>>> would
>>>> receive in return some sort of financial benefit.
>>>> I cannot arrange that kind of thing; the companies working together can
>>>> and, who knows, maybe they have tried and will try again.
>>>>
>>>>
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