Rui, I'm one of those annoyed people. No wonder so many submitters don't want to be bothered to join this list. I often wonder how people get any validating or scanning done at all; reading this list can take all my limited free time. Tracy At 02:11 AM 10/9/05 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings: > >It seems people don't realize that their irresponsible and utterly >misinformed statements get archived by freelists.org and are searchable, >both on freelists and on google to an extent. > >I am pretty disgusted at this point!!! > >If some people spent more time scanning and validating and less time >whining, we would be better off. > >If anyone wants to chew me out, feel free!! >But do it off list. >I can't tell you how many people I have talked to on this list who are >annoyed at the amount and content of the traffic. > >So, my direct flame line is: >goldWave@xxxxxxx > >have a pleasant evening. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:29 PM >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip > > >> Gerald >> >> Read BookShare's business plan as published in 2003. Do a Google search >> and you'll find it. >> >> BookShare, while it is under the auspices of Benetech, is a business. As >> a business, it seeks customers and hopefully will get them to renew year >> after year. >> That's how, in part, it hopefully hits its membership targets and, in the >> process, >> raises cash to pay its bills, hire staff, grow, improve its software, and >> all the rest. >> To gain and keep those customers, it has to provide services people will >> pay for; and to get people to pay for them, >> those services it has to be in the forms folks want them. >> And the more those services meet expectations, not only do you gain >> additional paying customers, you might be able to raise rates to boot. >> >> My point is this: Benetech and BookShare has a vested interest, and far >> great bargaining and lobbying potential, to convince a vendor to provide >> added support for their products. >> Moreover, they have to provide whatever source code, linkings, and >> whatever technically is required so that these 3rd parties can get their >> software to properly handshake. >> >> Sure, I can drop a note to Kurzweil, Freedom Scientific, et al; but the >> companies working together have a far greater chance of putting something >> together, including marketing agreements, >> that ultimately can lead to something. >> >> And making suggestions, Gerald, isn't complaining. It's thinking about >> what one uses and trying to figure out how to possibly improve it. >> >> >> And as a Bookshare customer, the more valuable the end product, the more >> willing I am to pay higher prices which potentially adds to the Bookshare >> income stream. >> >> Incidentally, one of the interesting nuggets gleamed from this business >> plan is a hope of eventually being able to partner with publishers and >> sell etexts to customers via the web. >> This, if it can be brought about, has great benefits for customers as they >> would have publisher quality books for the download and provide BookShare >> a new income stream as they'd pocket a portion of the sales price as >> revenue. >> >> I didn't realize this when writing earlier today; but Jim Fruchterman and >> I see much the same possibility at some distant point down the road. >> >> As an end user, it matters little to me if the book sharing, borrowing, >> purchasing and the like comes from Bookshare or someone else. What >> matters, as a customer, is that it exists; and if it is available from >> multiple sources, all the better. >> >> Incidentally, in its business plan which in part is targeted at potential >> donors, it is argued that there are major barriers to entry by >> competitors. >> Not truly understanding the costs of establishing and operating a file >> sharing system, and that is what BookShare in essence currently resembles, >> I have no idea if this blowing smoke or reality. >> What I do know is that if BookShare was able to support a budget >> equivalent to RFB&D, >> the end results would far outstrip RFB&D's book production and >> availability. >> >> Getting back to the original point of Bookshare working with 3rd vendors >> such as Kurzweil or Freedom Scientific, one of the possibilities would be >> having books distributed in .kes or .ark as part of the daisy bundle. >> So what would that mean to either Freedom Scientific or Kurzweil, as an >> example, it would give them a new marketing tool for which Bookshare would >> receive in return some sort of financial benefit. >> I cannot arrange that kind of thing; the companies working together can >> and, who knows, maybe they have tried and will try again. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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