[bksvol-discuss] Re: this is pathetic

  • From: Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:52:53 -0400

Rui,
I'm one of those annoyed people.  No wonder so many submitters don't want to
be bothered to join this list.  I often wonder how people get any validating
or scanning done at all; reading this list can take all my limited free time.
Tracy

At 02:11 AM 10/9/05 -0400, you wrote:
>Greetings:
>
>It seems people don't realize that their irresponsible and utterly 
>misinformed statements get archived by freelists.org and are searchable, 
>both on freelists and on google to an extent.
>
>I am pretty disgusted at this point!!!
>
>If some people spent more time scanning and validating and less time 
>whining, we would be better off.
>
>If anyone wants to chew me out, feel free!!
>But do it off list.
>I can't tell you how many people I have talked to on this list who are 
>annoyed at the amount and content of the traffic.
>
>So, my direct flame line is:
>goldWave@xxxxxxx
>
>have a pleasant evening.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:29 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: To Strip Or Not To Strip
>
>
>> Gerald
>>
>> Read BookShare's business plan as published in 2003.  Do a Google search
>> and you'll find it.
>>
>> BookShare, while it is under the auspices of Benetech, is a business.  As
>> a business, it seeks customers and hopefully will get them to renew year
>> after year.
>> That's how, in part, it hopefully hits its membership targets and, in the
>> process,
>> raises cash to pay its bills, hire staff, grow, improve its software, and
>> all the rest.
>> To gain and keep those customers, it has to provide services people will
>> pay for; and to get people to pay for them,
>> those services it has to be in the forms folks want them.
>> And the more those services meet expectations, not only do you gain
>> additional paying customers, you might be able to raise rates to boot.
>>
>> My point is this:  Benetech and BookShare has a vested interest, and far
>> great bargaining and lobbying potential, to convince a vendor to provide
>> added support for their products.
>> Moreover, they have to provide whatever source code, linkings, and
>> whatever technically is required so that these 3rd parties can get their
>> software to properly handshake.
>>
>> Sure, I can drop a note to Kurzweil, Freedom Scientific, et al; but the
>> companies working together have a far greater chance of putting something
>> together, including marketing agreements,
>> that ultimately can lead to something.
>>
>> And making suggestions, Gerald, isn't complaining.  It's thinking about
>> what one uses and trying to figure out how to possibly improve it.
>>
>>
>> And as a Bookshare customer, the more valuable the end product, the more
>> willing I am to pay higher prices which potentially adds to the Bookshare
>> income stream.
>>
>> Incidentally, one of the interesting nuggets gleamed from this business
>> plan is a hope of eventually being able to partner with publishers and
>> sell etexts to customers via the web.
>> This, if it can be brought about, has great benefits for customers as they
>> would have publisher quality books for the download and provide BookShare
>> a new income stream as they'd pocket a portion of the sales price as
>> revenue.
>>
>> I didn't realize this when writing earlier today; but Jim Fruchterman and
>> I see much the same possibility at some distant point down the road.
>>
>> As an end user, it matters little to me if the book sharing, borrowing,
>> purchasing and the like comes from Bookshare or someone else.  What
>> matters, as a customer, is that it exists; and if it is available from
>> multiple sources, all the better.
>>
>> Incidentally, in its business plan which in part is targeted at potential
>> donors, it is argued that there are major barriers to entry by
>> competitors.
>> Not truly understanding the costs of establishing and operating a file
>> sharing system, and that is what BookShare in essence currently resembles,
>> I have no idea if this blowing smoke or reality.
>> What I do know is that if BookShare was able to support a budget
>> equivalent to RFB&D,
>> the end results would far outstrip RFB&D's book production and
>> availability.
>>
>> Getting back to the original point of Bookshare working with 3rd vendors
>> such as Kurzweil or Freedom Scientific, one of the possibilities would be
>> having books distributed in .kes or .ark as part of the daisy bundle.
>> So what would that mean to either Freedom Scientific or Kurzweil, as an
>> example, it would give them a new marketing tool for which Bookshare would
>> receive in return some sort of financial benefit.
>> I cannot arrange that kind of thing; the companies working together can
>> and, who knows, maybe they have tried and will try again.
>>
>>
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