[bksvol-discuss] Re: **text Quality**
- From: "Edwards, Paul" <pedwards@xxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:11:31 -0400
that is not necessarily true, Guido. Louise may have a book where dialect
produces this spelling in the original and, in that case, of course, the
correct text should be retained in spite of the likelihood that speech
synthesizers will be mortally offended.
Paul
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From: Guido Corona [mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx]
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Louise, it looks like your brightness settings are way to high. If the book
has already been scanned the only solution is to search for those offending
strings and replace them with the correct ones one at a time. Are you using
the OCR program from Premiere Programming? These are the kind of errors that I
have seen with it.
One remote possibility is there may be some bizarre replacement strings in an
automated correction list.
Guido
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speaking of text quality, how do you handle a book in which the word you
appears as a y and an apostrophe, or the word you're appears as y'r or the
word to appears as the letter t and an apostrophe. This may be fine with a
Braille display, but it's very annoying with speech. As an example:
Are y' going t' the store today?
I realize this is a form of dialect and assume it should be left as is, is
this correct? If it was me, I would put the letter a after the y' and the
t', which would make it easier to listen to, but that would change the book,
which I assume is a no-no. Louise
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: **text Quality**
> At 10:49 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
>
> > >This without doubt is my biggest issue with bookshare. The "fair
rating."
> > >In my experience, anything marked fair is usually almost unreadable.
>
> I agree with the overall sentiment of what you are saying, but there are
> always exceptions to any rule.
> Some books are still rated fair as a result of the bug that existed in the
> Bookshare rating system a while back;
> Some books are rated fair because of numerous foreign language words, and
a
> poor job by the person who edited the submission in not catching this and
> boosting the rating;
> Some are rated fair because the headers and footers didn't scan well and
> weren't stripped out, but the text may deserve a good rating;
> Some books may have instances of hand written letters inserted which may
> not seriously impact the overall readability of the book;
> Some books may be accurate reflections of the written text, but by todays
> standards of spelling and grammar may get a fair rating;
> and, some books may be so old and rare that you can't find them elsewhere,
> but you can only get a fair rating out of them.
>
> Perhaps Bookshare should also have a poor rating for the really bad scans,
> but where the books may still have some redeeming qualities.
>
> > >To the people who say, "having the book is better then no book at all,"
I
> > >say, you are outright wrong!!"
> >
> >I have to say, that 1 word "wrong", was probably the only reason I
decided
> >to respond to this message.
> As the saying goes, "different strokes for different folks." I may like
> single malt scotch, while you may not, but this doesn't make you
> wrong. It's called a different opinion.
> While I may not read books with a fair rating often, there have been
> occasions where I have because they may have been the only copy I could
> find available.
> Personally, I hate braille, and wouldn't even consider reading anything
> longer than a label in that form; likewise, I no longer listen to tape
> books as I can kill a cassette player probably quicker then anyone you
have
> ever met.
> It also used to drive me crazy trying to coax a tape along that wasn't
> cooperating, or getting to tape 4, of a 6 tape set only to find it was
useless.
>
> Ultimately, I would like to see Bookshare start a program aimed at
> improving the quality of the collection. Maybe have a separate download
> section for the volunteers where the books rated fair could be rescanned
to
> improve the quality.
>
> In closing, I have to add, that after using a KRM model 400 for years,
even
> some of the books rated fair on Bookshare are an improvement.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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