Thanks for that, Claire. The first line is great--it certainly is much easier and faster to delete running headers and footers than to make sure they all match and are capitalize properly. I must say, btw, I've never seen running footers, either in books I've read or books I've scanned or validated. smile Cindy --- Claire O'Brien <ClaireO@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Here are the guidelines concerning Headers and > Footers from the volunteer manual. > claire > > > 3.3.6 Feel Free To Clean Up Running Headers And > Footers > > When a book is uploaded after validation, the Book > Is processed by a tool which attempts to do four > things: > > 1. Identify recurring text at the top and bottom > of each page known as "running headers and footers" > 2. Identify page numbers in the running headers > and footers > 3. Remove text from running headers and footers > 4. Process the page numbers to allow easier > navigation of DAISY books and include original page > numbers in BRF books > > Volunteers can assist this tool by insuring that > headers and footers are consistent throughout the > book. > > * Capitalization should be used consistently > throughout headers and footers > * Tabs and spaces should be used consistently > throughout headers and footers > * Page numbers and text in each header or footer > should be on the same line > * Page numbers should be separated from text in > a header or footer by a space or tab > > Note that the text will be removed by the tool if it > is consistent, so the easiest way to insure that the > tool can identify page numbers is to remove the text > from running headers and footers. This is not only > much easier for volunteers, but makes the tool's job > simpler as well. > > If you wish to clean up headers and footers, please > do the following for each page containing a header > or footer: > > * Make sure that if a page contains a header > that the header is the first line of text on the > page. > * Make sure that if a page contains a footer > that the footer is the last line of text on the > page. > > Note that lines containing punctuation marks or > symbols, such as hyphens and asterisks, are > considered lines of text. > > The following will also help prevent issues with > page numbers in HTML files when creating an HTML > file using the Bookshare.org Unpack Tool: > > * Make sure there is a blank line before headers > * Make sure there is a blank line after footers > > > > > > > > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:43:36 -0700 > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: who do you think you > are > > Mayrie, Thank you for your very good explanation to > Bob. I do wish the > submitters would take on this task. I'm sorry to > say, I have heard nothing > from Bookshare staff on the subject of headers. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:27 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: who do you think you > are > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > Since you remember seeing headers, you'll > doubtless remember > > whether you removed them. If you didn't, ,, that > is good to know. > > Generally, those of us who actually do much more > than the validation > > requires try to remove headers as we validate, > leaving page numbers on the > > pages. The stripper is supposed to remove > headers, but only if they are > > "exactly" uniform. In my experience, most are not > that uniform. When I > > say "exactly" uniform, I mean that the header not > only has the same text > > in it throughout the book, but also that the > number of spaces between > > words in the header never changes. I don't find > that books have that > > uniformity in headers. It is not a requirement > for validation that you > > remove headers. It is preferable. I consider it > a kindness when I do it. > > I figure that most people are like I am, and would > rather not read the > > title of the book, or the author's name at the top > of each page. Also, > > and even more annoying, very often, headers don't > scan clearly. So, not > > only is the reader having to either read or hear > that repetitive stuff at > > the top of each page, it might also very well be > gobletygook because the > > headers didn't scan clearly. I find that it is > much less work to remove > > headers altogether than it would be to correct the > dang things so that > > they are all "exactly uniform." > > > > Was all of that ten times more than you > wanted to know? Are you > > thinking that we are a bunch of deranged > perfectionists? Guess what! > > SOME OF US ARE!!! Maniacal laugh! We're > practicing for a new literary > > horror movie soon to be released only to a library > near you. It will be > > called "Revenge Of The Mad Beheader." > > > > Peace, > > Mayrie > > > > > > > > At 12:48 PM 10/17/2007, you wrote: > >>I don't know. I just validated that book last > weekend and got a response > >>back yesterday saying it had gone onto the system. > >> > >>Frankly, I don't remember whether it had all of > its headings, but I do > >>remember there were some. > >> > >>You are right. It is a good read. > >> > >>If I did something wrong in downloading the book > and validating it, please > >>let me know. This newby status won't last forever, > then I will be held > >>responsible for my mistakes. <lol> > >> > >>Bob > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill > O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> > >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:07 PM > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] who do you think you are > >> > >> > >>>I was validating this book when Clair contacted > me to let me know that it > >>>had just been approved for the collection. We > assume it had appeared > >>>twice on step 1. My concern is: This brand new > addition to the collection > >>>has all of its headers; I was particularly aware > of this because I had > >>>been removing them while validating. Do you all > think we are wrong now in > >>>assuming that the stripper removes them? If so, > this is all the more > >>>reason why they should be manually removed. > Please Bookshare staff, > >>>answer this for us. 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