[bksvol-discuss] Re: headers and footers--manual

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT)

That is interesting. Thanks for the info, Shelley. I
haven't read textbooks in a *long* time. smile

Cindy

--- "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> I have three or four books with "running footers"
> and they are very similar 
> to running headers but at the bottom of the page.  A
> lot of textbooks have 
> them.
> 
> Why I don't know. But I erase them just the same..
> 
> 
> Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> 
> More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book
> in my hand, my 
> limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> - Helen Keller
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:41 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] headers and
> footers--manual
> 
> 
> Thanks for that, Claire. The first line is great--it
> certainly is much easier and faster to delete
> running
> headers and footers than to make sure they all match
> and are capitalize properly. I must say, btw, I've
> never seen running footers, either in books I've
> read
> or books I've scanned or validated. smile
> 
> Cindy
> 
> --- Claire O'Brien <ClaireO@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Here are the guidelines concerning Headers and
> > Footers from the volunteer manual.
> > claire
> >
> >
> > 3.3.6 Feel Free To Clean Up Running Headers And
> > Footers
> >
> > When a book is uploaded after validation, the Book
> > Is processed by a tool which attempts to do four
> > things:
> >
> >    1. Identify recurring text at the top and
> bottom
> > of each page known as "running headers and
> footers"
> >    2. Identify page numbers in the running headers
> > and footers
> >    3. Remove text from running headers and footers
> >    4. Process the page numbers to allow easier
> > navigation of DAISY books and include original
> page
> > numbers in BRF books
> >
> > Volunteers can assist this tool by insuring that
> > headers and footers are consistent throughout the
> > book.
> >
> >     * Capitalization should be used consistently
> > throughout headers and footers
> >     * Tabs and spaces should be used consistently
> > throughout headers and footers
> >     * Page numbers and text in each header or
> footer
> > should be on the same line
> >     * Page numbers should be separated from text
> in
> > a header or footer by a space or tab
> >
> > Note that the text will be removed by the tool if
> it
> > is consistent, so the easiest way to insure that
> the
> > tool can identify page numbers is to remove the
> text
> > from running headers and footers. This is not only
> > much easier for volunteers, but makes the tool's
> job
> > simpler as well.
> >
> > If you wish to clean up headers and footers,
> please
> > do the following for each page containing a header
> > or footer:
> >
> >     * Make sure that if a page contains a header
> > that the header is the first line of text on the
> > page.
> >     * Make sure that if a page contains a footer
> > that the footer is the last line of text on the
> > page.
> >
> > Note that lines containing punctuation marks or
> > symbols, such as hyphens and asterisks, are
> > considered lines of text.
> >
> > The following will also help prevent issues with
> > page numbers in HTML files when creating an HTML
> > file using the Bookshare.org Unpack Tool:
> >
> >     * Make sure there is a blank line before
> headers
> >     * Make sure there is a blank line after
> footers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------ Forwarded Message
> > From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:43:36 -0700
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: who do you think you
> > are
> >
> > Mayrie, Thank you for your very good explanation
> to
> > Bob. I do wish the
> > submitters would take on this task. I'm sorry to
> > say, I have heard nothing
> > from Bookshare staff on the subject of headers.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:27 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: who do you think you
> > are
> >
> >
> > > Hi Bob,
> > >
> > >         Since you remember seeing headers,
> you'll
> > doubtless remember
> > > whether you removed them.  If you didn't, ,,
> that
> > is good to know.
> > > Generally, those  of us who actually do much
> more
> > than the validation
> > > requires try to remove headers as we validate,
> > leaving page numbers on the
> > > pages.  The stripper is supposed to remove
> > headers, but only if they are
> > > "exactly" uniform.  In my experience, most are
> not
> > that uniform.  When I
> > > say "exactly" uniform, I mean that the header
> not
> > only has the same text
> > > in it throughout the book, but also that the
> > number of spaces between
> > > words in the header never changes.  I don't find
> > that books have that
> > > uniformity in headers.  It is not a requirement
> > for validation that you
> > > remove headers.  It is preferable.  I consider
> it
> > a kindness when I do it.
> > > I figure that most people are like I am, and
> would
> > rather not read the
> > > title of the book, or the author's name at the
> top
> > of each page.  Also,
> > > and even more annoying, very often, headers
> don't
> > scan clearly.  So, not
> > > only is the reader having to either read or hear
> > that repetitive stuff at
> > > the top of each page, it might also very well be
> > gobletygook because the
> > > headers didn't scan clearly.  I find that it is
> > much less work to remove
> > > headers altogether than it would be to correct
> the
> > dang things so that
> > > they are all "exactly uniform."
> > >
> > >         Was all of that ten times more than you
> > wanted to know?  Are you
> > > thinking that we are a bunch of deranged
> > perfectionists?  Guess what!
> > > SOME OF US ARE!!!  Maniacal laugh!  We're
> > practicing for a new literary
> > > horror movie soon to be released only to a
> library
> > near you.  It will be
> > > called "Revenge Of The Mad Beheader."
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > Mayrie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:48 PM 10/17/2007, you wrote:
> > >>I don't know. I just validated that book last
> > weekend and got a response
> > >>back yesterday saying it had gone onto the
> system.
> > >>
> > >>Frankly, I don't remember whether it had all of
> > its headings, but I do
> > >>remember there were some.
> > >>
> > >>You are right. It is a good read.
> > >>
> > >>If I did something wrong in downloading the book
> > and validating it, please
> > >>let me know. This newby status won't last
> forever,
> > then I will be held
> > >>responsible for my mistakes. <lol>
> > >>
> > >>Bob
> > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill
> > O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:07 PM
> > >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] who do you think you
> are
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I was validating this book when Clair contacted
> > me to let me know that it
> > >>>had just been approved for the collection. We
> > assume it had appeared
> > >>>twice on step 1. My concern is: This brand new
> > addition to the collection
> > >>>has all of its headers; I was particularly
> aware
> > of this because I had
> > >>>been removing them while validating. Do you all
> > think we are wrong now in
> > >>>assuming that the stripper removes them? If so,
> > this is all the more
> > >>>reason why they should be manually removed.
> > Please Bookshare staff,
> > >>>answer this for us. By the way, this book of
> > short stories is Alice Munro
> > >>>at her best in my opinion.
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