[bksvol-discuss] Re: dots replaced by dashes
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
Maybe, but odd that 2 diffeent books have the same thing. oh, well. That's
we're for--fixing things like tha., smile
> print book. Do you
> think it's a scanno--something from the OCR? The world
> is strange, isn't
> it!
> Marty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cindy
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:54 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: dots replaced by dashes
>
> Interesting. I'm currently proofing a book with the
> same problem, and I've
> never seen it before.
> The book I'm proofing is in British English. Is yours? I'm
> now wondering if
> it's a (I can't think of the word) of the publisher.
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 7/28/12, Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Martha Rafter <mlhr@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading questions
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 12:57 PM
> > Hi John,
> > You're very welcome, John; that's what
> we're here
> > for. Enjoying reading a really good book is the
> reward
> > we get when we volunteer for this job. Oh, also
> the
> > $2.50 toward our membership. Have a great day!
> > Marty
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: John Simpson
> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:41 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading questions
> >
> > Thanks all for the many helpful suggestions. Here are
> the
> > strategies that I have adopted.
> >
> > For the apostrophe issue, I am doing a 'find and
> replace'
> > putting the letter with the superscript apostrophe and
> it's
> > following letter in the 'find' and then the letter
> followed
> > by an apostrophe followed by the final letter in the
> > 'replace' and then doing a global replace. I figure I
> will
> > have to do that at most 26 times (smile).
> >
> > The page break difference between book.google.com and
> > BookShare can certainly be explained by different
> editions
> > of the same book, so I am going with the BookShare
> .rtf. So
> > this is essentially a non-issue.
> >
> > I am solving the missing m-dash problem by doing a find
> on
> > two spaces and then replacing it with a -- where the
> context
> > indicates that was what was in the original. Having
> looked
> > at the books.google.com version, it is clear to me that
> the
> > author made liberal use of dashes in her writing
> style.
> > Unfortunately, there are a number of double spaces
> that
> > clearly do not need to be replaced with dashes, so this
> is a
> > one-at-a-time process.
> >
> > I have also appreciated previous discussions on
> ellipses,
> > which the author also uses with some frequency.
> >
> > It appears that this book is going to take some time to
> get
> > corrected. It's a good thing I'm enjoying the book
> itself.
> >
> > Once again, thanks ever so much for all the help and
> > suggestions. You are truly an awesome group.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:51 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofreading questions
> >
> > But Anne, the apostrophe belongs between the last two
> > letters.
> > On 7/28/2012 7:30 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > John, I'll try to answer your questions.
> Perhaps
> > others more wiser
> > > than I will do better.
> > >
> > >
> > > Original message:
> > >
> > >> I have several questions about the book that I
> am
> > currently proofing.
> > >> First off, words that are followed by an "'s"
> have
> > the apostrsphe
> > >> over the penultimate letter (e.g. Martin̓s).
> > >
> > > This depends on how the term is used. If it
> is a
> > possessive,
> > > referring to something belonging to Martin, e.g.
> > Martin's book,
> > > Martin's car, etc. Then leave the
> apostrophe
> > where it is. Some
> > > people when referring to a family named Martin
> might
> > write Martin's
> > > as in The Martin's and I went to the
> theater. I'd
> > tend to leave these
> > > apostrophes too. Also if there is a
> character
> > called Martin in the
> > > book the text may refer to him as: Martin's
> > coming. Or: Martin's
> > > leaving at 10:00 you better catch him before he
> > goes. These are all
> > > legitimate reasons for using an apostrophe, and
> you
> > have to know why
> > > the apostrophe is there before you summarily nuke
> it.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Secondly, I have gone to books.google.com to
> take a
> > look at this
> > >> book. My question here is whether Google has a
> fair
> > representation of
> > >> the book. I know that all but one page are
> present,
> > but within the
> > >> first several chapters, the page breaks in
> the
> > scanned version .rtf
> > >> are not in the same place as they are in
> Google's
> > copy. I certainly
> > >> don't want to have to go through the entire
> book
> > changing pagination
> > >> based on Google. I do have a hold at my local
> > library for the print
> > >> copy that will help answer this question. Any
> other
> > advice would be
> > >> greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > If the page breaks are in your text, go with them,
> so
> > long as the
> > > numbering sequence is right.
> > >
> > >> The third question is that in the scanned
> version
> > that I have from
> > >> BookShare there are frequent instances of two
> > spaces, rather than
> > >> one. The sense of the book is that there
> should be
> > a comma where the
> > >> first space is. However, when looking at the
> Google
> > version, this
> > >> separator is an m dash surrounded by spaces.
> All of
> > these dashes have
> > >> been removed. Again, my question is whether
> this is
> > a function of the
> > >> scan volunteer the scanner hardware or the
> OCR
> > software.
> > >
> > > John, the M-dash needed to be removed from the
> text
> > because it doesn't
> > > transfer well into the Braille files for
> > Bookshare. What should have
> > > happened is that the scanner replace the M-dash
> with
> > two hyphens, like
> > > this --. I'd do a global find and replace
> and
> > replace the two spaces
> > > with two hyphens. You will probably find a
> couple
> > of occasions where
> > > you've replaced these chars wrongly, but fixing
> five
> > mal-replacements
> > > is better than trying to manually replace all
> these
> > instances.
> > >
> > > Hope I've been helpful? If I knew more about
> your
> > apostrophe problem,
> > > I could probably help better. I'd need to
> see the
> > whole sentence to
> > > get the context in which the apostrophe was used.
> > >
> > > Ann P.
> > >
> >
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