Yes, if you don't have OpenBook or Kurzweil, the .ark and .kes files are out for you. There is no conversion process in place. As validators, we have to convert those books to .rtf upon uploading back to the site after validation. Take care. Julie Morales inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Windows/MSN Messenger (but not email): mercy0421@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: mercy0421 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merv Keck" <merv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Validating I noticed a lot of Ark and Kurzwell files up there on the download list. Should I assume that unless I have Open Book or Kurzwell installed on my computer that I cannot validate these books, or is there a conversionprocess for them? I see plenty of doc, RTF, and text files up there so it's not a problem I was just curious. "If Love is friendship set to music, then Nicki is my favorite song."