[bksvol-discuss] Re: Poetry Formatting Was RE: Re: If You See Duplicates
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
Losing line endings is not a problem if the proofer (or scanner before
submitting) hits return at the end of a line. What was, and perhaps still is a
problem, is that there is no way to format a poem the way the author intends if
the verse is not line, line, line, line.... I put two stars between verses to
indicate that thre is a new verse. But some poets give shapes to their
poems--or the second line of a verse (and perhaps third and/or fourth) are
intended to be indented. When I did the Kipling book all those spaces were
deleted. When I first started profing I did some Indian poetryAsian Indian) not
realizing all spacing wuld disappear. I learned a lot about Word from the
experience, but anyone reading those books now would have no idea what the
poems should read like.
Cindy
Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and books-being-scanned
list available at sites below
Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List
Books Being Scanned List:
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List
--- On Tue, 7/21/09, Rik James <rixmix2009@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Rik James <rixmix2009@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Poetry Formatting Was RE: Re: If You See
Duplicates
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 11:59 AM
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Lori,
what was the book of poetry you mentioned? I would like to
download and read it.
And thank you very much for putting all that effort in it. I
do really enjoy reading poetry when they are more easily read.
Thanks.
Rik
From: Lori Castner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:54 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Poetry Formatting Was RE: Re: If You
See Duplicates
Hi, Jim,
I downloaded the book I just proofread and checked
the .brf copy. The line endings were correctly maintained in the six or
seven poems I checked.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Homme, James
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:08
AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Poetry
Formatting Was RE: Re: If You See Duplicates
Hi,
Speaking
of poetry, does anyone know if the Bookshare tools still mangle line endings
in poetry?
Thanks.
Jim
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori
Castner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:52 AM
To:
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: If You
See Duplicates
A lengthy
discussion occurred aroundsix months ago about the abolition of books in the
collection when publisher quality books come along. I think the most
harmful loss when a book is replaced by a PQ book is the loss of picture
descriptions. But an almost equal loss is the loss of hours of effort on
a volunteer's part. I just completed proofing a poetry book and verified
that all line endings of the poems were in fact correct by comparing the
poems
in the book with versions of the poems from the internet. It took more
hours than any other book I have proofed for bookshare, but in fact was a
"labor of love". And I would mind if that book were replaced by a PQ
book.
But the bottom line
is that it doesn't matter if I would mind because that is the agreement made
with publishers, so what is is!
And, Bob, I love
that umbrella quote. It gave me my first chuckle of the day and normally
I don't chuckle before noon and it's only 7:00 a.m
here.
Lori
C.
----- Original
Message -----
From: Bob
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July
21, 2009 5:42 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss]
Re: If You See Duplicates
Jamie brings up a
good point.
However, I think
this brings up another question, how literal should we take
this?
One thing I do
when I proof a book is to change the font size for chapter headings so that
they are navigable in a daisy format, which, in my opinion, improves the
book for bookshare users. Also, what about all those books for pre-school
kids with wonderful picture descriptions. In my opinion, again, these are
improvements to the bookshare collection rather than changes to the
publisher's intent.
All these changes
would be abolished if a book of publisher quality came along to replace
them.
Bob
"A bank is a place where they
lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to
rain."
----- Original
Message -----
From: Jamie Yates,
CPhT
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July
21, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject:
[bksvol-discuss] Re: If You See Duplicates
Kim, we are not allowed to
clean up typographical errors in books either. If it is in the print book
wrong, it has to be in the Bookshare file wrong, too.
--
Jamie in
Michigan
Currently Reading: Miss Julia Hits the Road by Ann B.
Ross
See everything I've read this year at: www.michrxtech.com/books.html
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