[bksvol-discuss] Re: More questions on end notes (was Re: Re: End Notes)

  • From: Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:57:07 +0000

Hi Judy,

Excellent questions! Yes, please put a space between the footnote number and 
the text, whether it is superscript or not. When the footnote is placed in 
square brackets, we only ask that people include the number, a period after the 
number, and the footnote text, so your second example is perfect. The word 
“footnote” is not necessary.

I also realized another potential type of footnote that people may encounter: 
if anyone comes across a book that only has one or two footnotes and the author 
has inserted asterisks (and no numbers), please put the footnote information in 
square brackets. In this case, include an asterisk before the footnote 
information (because there is no number), but no period after it. I hope I’m 
not making things even more confusing!

Best,

Madeleine

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy s.
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:30 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] More questions on end notes (was Re: Re: End Notes)

Hi Madeleine,

I think I need a little more clarification. smile.

When the footnote number remains in the text as normal size or in superscript, 
do you want a space in front of it, to separate it from the text that it's by, 
or not?  So, for example, would it be:

This sentence has a footnote number.1 This is the next sentence in the text.
or
This sentences has a footnote number. 1 This is the next sentence in the text.

Also, at the bottom, if the footnote is contained within square brackets, do 
the outsourcers and in house staff add in the word footnote: (or footnotes) 
right after the left bracket to indicate that the following text is a footnote, 
or not?  So, for example, is it:

[Footnotes:
1. This is footnote number one.
2. This is footnote number two.]

or

[1. This is footnote number one.
2. This is footnote number two.]

Thanks!

Judy s.
On 10/28/2013 2:34 PM, Madeleine Linares wrote:
Hi all,

I’m very sorry for the confusion. I’m working to update the instructions as 
they are inaccurate and out of date. Please do not put parentheses around the 
numbers in the text or at the bottom around the footnote information. For the 
numbers in the text you can do one of three things: place an asterisk next to 
the number, keep the number in normal (size 12) font, or keep the number in 
superscript font. The scanner should be doing his or her best to make sure that 
the number stays as it was in the text. Our vendors do not add in asterisks but 
we allow volunteers to do so for clarification purposes.

We ask that the information in the footnote be placed in brackets if the number 
is either superscript or regular-sized font in the text (to clarify that it is 
not part of the text). If the proofreader adds in an asterisk next to the 
number, he or she should add in three asterisks after the text and before the 
footnote information. In this case, the footnote information does not need to 
be included in brackets.

Proofreaders have been adding in asterisks since before I started, which is why 
they are allowed to continue. Since we are all working very hard to make sure 
that volunteers, outsourcers, and in-house staff are all doing things 
consistently, I’ve been recommending the method of leaving the number in the 
text (either in regular font size or superscripted) and then placing the 
footnote in brackets, as that is what both other in-house staff and outsourcers 
are instructed to do. However, we do still allow the asterisk version at this 
time.

I realize that having two options is not ideal, but I really am doing my very 
best to accommodate everyone while also keeping things consistent in order to 
provide the best quality books to our members.

Best,

Madeleine Linares
Volunteer Coordinator
Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
650-644-3459
madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:28 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: End Notes

The footnote/endnote instructions confused me too. The written instructions say 
"square brackets," but the example in the instructions uses parentheses. So I 
have been using parentheses for both the in-text superscript number and the 
footnote number, like:
A recent study found some interesting results (1).
(1) Journal of the American Medical Society.

Is that wrong? Should I be using the asterisk instead? The instructions didn't 
mention asterisks, but what do the rest of you do for footnotes?

Rachel

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From: "Deborah Murray" <blinkeeblink@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:blinkeeblink@xxxxxxxxx>>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:44:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: End Notes

Hi Jean,

Please don't put parentheses or brackets around footnote or endnote numbers. 
The method we have been using, which seems to work for everyone, is to put an 
asterisk (*) in front of the number, and make sure there is a space between it 
and the word to which it refers. Example:"My pet is a dog. *1

I don't understand why we keep being told to enclose footnotes at the bottom of 
a page in square brackets, supposedly to avoid confusion. To me, this just 
creates confusion. Square brackets mean something, such as text which has been 
changed or added to by an author. They most definitely DO NOT mean footnotes!!
And when your footnote also contains square brackets... more confusion.

The way I format a page is to use three asterisks (* * *) at the end of the 
main text of the page. Then I list the footnotes at the bottom of the page.
You don't have to do anything special to the notes, whether at  the end of the 
page, chapter or book except to make sure the number is followed by a period.
If the notes are marked only by an asterisk, you need to make sure the asterisk 
is spaced away from the text.

Hope that wasn't too confusing...
Deborah



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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean McDonald
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:13 PM
To: bksvol-discuss
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] End Notes

Hi, everyone:

I've checked the proofreading guide and can't find anything relating to end 
notes.  Is there anything special that needs to be done when proofing a book 
with end notes?  Should the note appearing in the text be put into parentheses 
( ) as we do with footnotes?  What about the list of end notes themselves?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Best,
Jean McDonald


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