Angel,
Glad you got JAWS doing what you want it to, since I'm a sighted volunteer and
can't help much with that. But as to what you do as a proofer, That I know a
lot about. Actually, you should read the proofing and scanning manual in the
volunteer section of the bookshare web site, first. But that can take a while
and you can make a useful start on proofing without it.
Here's a brief summary of what you need to "fix."
The scanning and character recognition programs make mistakes (we call them
scannos as an analogy to typing errors that are called typos). Most of these
are where one or two letters are mistaken for other letters with approximately
the same shape. A very simple example is i, l, 1, are all vertical lines. Any
one of them can be mistaken from the other. So if a word has a 1 in the middle
of it and the sentence makes sense by putting i or l in place of the 1, that's
an obvious fix. Similarly for o and 0. Then there are combinations of letters
that are similar rl, and ri can be converted to n; ni, nl, ln, in, rn, nr can
be converted to m. And since they are similar to m, they are similar to each
other so any one of them can become any of the others. Then there is the less
obvious by shape, but at one time quite frequent conversion of th into di
making all the occurrences of the into die, and a very depressing read.
One way to get a lot of these fixed is to use the spelling correction in your
proofing program (Word or K1000 or whatever). Almost all of the time these
result in nonsense, not real words, so the spelling checker will find them.
Unfortunately, the spelling checkers are mostly geared to providing hints in
terms of typical typing errors, not letter shape errors so the alternatives it
provides are often useless. But by consideration of letter shapes and the
context of the sentence it is usually pretty obvious what the intent was.
In some cases the scanno can be a real word, though. The only way to find
these is by actually reading the text
The easiest problems to find (but not always to fix) are when there was a
smudge or a picture on the page and the scanning and character recognition
program tried to make that into words and instead just added nonsense. If
everything around that nonsense makes sense and seems complete, then you can
just eliminate the junk. But, knowing for sure whether that is all junk can be
a problem. If you are not sure, you can email the person who did the scan to
send a rescan of the page. Also, there are many of us sighted volunteers that
can check the book when Amazon or google books has a preview online or when it
is available at a nearby library. There are 4 libraries within 10 miles of
where I live, between them I've found some pretty obscure books (actually there
are 3 other libraries at colleges, but I can only go there and look at books,
they won't let me check them out).
Beyond merely fixing the text there is formatting chapter headings for easy
DAISY navigation, dealing with page arangement of things like sidebars and
footnotes in non-fiction books and much more that I will leave to the scanning
and proofing manual to explain.
I hope you enjoy proofing for bookshare.
Misha
On 11/11/2012 8:25 PM, Angel Murphy wrote:
Yes Sue that's right. But I figured out how to do it. Thanks. But now I have
another question to ask. When I am reading. What kind of mistakes am I looking
for exactly?
Sent from my iPod
On Nov 11, 2012, at 11:06 PM, "Sue Stevens" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think what Angel is wanting to do is to set Jaws so that she will hear all
punctuation in Word, but she does not want to hear it in other programs--for
instance if she is reading a book for pleasure. Since I am a Braille only user,
I can't answer her question. But is it possible for her to set Jaws so that she
will only hear all the punctuation when proofing in Word?
Sue S.
-----Original Message----- From: Martha Rafter
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:43 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws commands
Hi Angel,
If you are speaking of proofreading, you need to have your JAWS set to
read all of the punctuation so that you can catch it and fix it if it is not
correct. A scanner will often put in a lot of stuff that is not in the text
of the book, and you will need to remove it. HTH!
Marty
-----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:41 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws commands
So when I am reading a book. What does the punctuation need to b set on?
Sent from my iPod
On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:32 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Angel,
Netta's suggestion will do universal punctuation, but if you want to turn on
all the punctuation on just the file that you are working on, hold down the
JAWS key and hit v. Then hit p, which will give you the punctuation. Make sure
that you put it on 'all' and your JAWS will give you all the punctuation marks.
HTH!
Marty
-----Original Message----- From: Dornetta
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:34 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws commands
Hey Angel;
You can do that by going to the Jaws options, Insert V, and check the box
for punctuation , all, I think that the default setting is set to most.
Netta
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