Hey Misha I just wanted to tell u thanks for the help. But I am a totally blind user of Bookshare. An the manual is confusing to understand. That's y I am asking for help. Because I don't understand the manual, and what it is saying. I hope that everyone is able to understand. Sent from my iPod On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:11 AM, misha <mishatronics@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Angel, > > Glad you got JAWS doing what you want it to, since I'm a sighted volunteer > and can't help much with that. But as to what you do as a proofer, That I > know a lot about. Actually, you should read the proofing and scanning manual > in the volunteer section of the bookshare web site, first. But that can take > a while and you can make a useful start on proofing without it. > > Here's a brief summary of what you need to "fix." > > The scanning and character recognition programs make mistakes (we call them > scannos as an analogy to typing errors that are called typos). Most of these > are where one or two letters are mistaken for other letters with > approximately the same shape. A very simple example is i, l, 1, are all > vertical lines. Any one of them can be mistaken from the other. So if a > word has a 1 in the middle of it and the sentence makes sense by putting i or > l in place of the 1, that's an obvious fix. Similarly for o and 0. Then > there are combinations of letters that are similar rl, and ri can be > converted to n; ni, nl, ln, in, rn, nr can be converted to m. And since they > are similar to m, they are similar to each other so any one of them can > become any of the others. Then there is the less obvious by shape, but at > one time quite frequent conversion of th into di making all the occurrences > of the into die, and a very depressing read. > > One way to get a lot of these fixed is to use the spelling correction in your > proofing program (Word or K1000 or whatever). Almost all of the time these > result in nonsense, not real words, so the spelling checker will find them. > Unfortunately, the spelling checkers are mostly geared to providing hints in > terms of typical typing errors, not letter shape errors so the alternatives > it provides are often useless. But by consideration of letter shapes and the > context of the sentence it is usually pretty obvious what the intent was. > > In some cases the scanno can be a real word, though. The only way to find > these is by actually reading the text > > The easiest problems to find (but not always to fix) are when there was a > smudge or a picture on the page and the scanning and character recognition > program tried to make that into words and instead just added nonsense. If > everything around that nonsense makes sense and seems complete, then you can > just eliminate the junk. But, knowing for sure whether that is all junk can > be a problem. If you are not sure, you can email the person who did the scan > to send a rescan of the page. Also, there are many of us sighted volunteers > that can check the book when Amazon or google books has a preview online or > when it is available at a nearby library. There are 4 libraries within 10 > miles of where I live, between them I've found some pretty obscure books > (actually there are 3 other libraries at colleges, but I can only go there > and look at books, they won't let me check them out). > > Beyond merely fixing the text there is formatting chapter headings for easy > DAISY navigation, dealing with page arangement of things like sidebars and > footnotes in non-fiction books and much more that I will leave to the > scanning and proofing manual to explain. > > I hope you enjoy proofing for bookshare. > > Misha > > On 11/11/2012 8:25 PM, Angel Murphy wrote: >> Yes Sue that's right. But I figured out how to do it. Thanks. But now I have >> another question to ask. When I am reading. What kind of mistakes am I >> looking for exactly? >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Nov 11, 2012, at 11:06 PM, "Sue Stevens" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> I think what Angel is wanting to do is to set Jaws so that she will hear >>> all punctuation in Word, but she does not want to hear it in other >>> programs--for instance if she is reading a book for pleasure. Since I am a >>> Braille only user, I can't answer her question. But is it possible for her >>> to set Jaws so that she will only hear all the punctuation when proofing in >>> Word? >>> >>> Sue S. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Martha Rafter >>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:43 PM >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws commands >>> >>> Hi Angel, >>> If you are speaking of proofreading, you need to have your JAWS set to >>> read all of the punctuation so that you can catch it and fix it if it is not >>> correct. A scanner will often put in a lot of stuff that is not in the text >>> of the book, and you will need to remove it. HTH! >>> Marty >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy >>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:41 PM >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Cc: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws commands >>> >>> So when I am reading a book. What does the punctuation need to b set on? >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 6:32 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Angel, >>>> Netta's suggestion will do universal punctuation, but if you want to turn >>>> on all the punctuation on just the file that you are working on, hold down >>>> the JAWS key and hit v. Then hit p, which will give you the punctuation. >>>> Make sure that you put it on 'all' and your JAWS will give you all the >>>> punctuation marks. HTH! >>>> Marty >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dornetta >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:34 PM >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Jaws commands >>>> >>>> Hey Angel; >>>> You can do that by going to the Jaws options, Insert V, and check the box >>>> for punctuation , all, I think that the default setting is set to most. >>>> Netta >>>> "Just because you are blind does not mean you lack vision"-Stevie Wonder >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list >>>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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