[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare tool doesn't see what I see
- From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:44:36 -0700
Hi, Misha,
My only experience with reading a document with columns is our church
bulletin. It is written in two columns, and I have to use a command in my
screen reading program to move between the columns.
The document format is .doc so sometimes I save the bulletin in a different
program to eliminate the column breaks.
I imagine there are other documents formatted with columns, but I'm just as
happy not to have encountered any!
Lori C.
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare tool doesn't see what I see
If you are using MS Word then put ^n in the find box and if it finds
anything, that is a column break.
The first time I found one in a book I was proofing, I submitted what I
thought was a well proofed book. But the page that comes up after you
upload the book said there was one less page break than page numbers. I
said that can't be right--and I cancelled the submit. I paged through
the book and everything was ok, just as I thought. I submitted it
again, again one too few page breaks. I thought maybe there is a
section break that didn't get converted to page break somehow. No, ^b
in find found nothing. Finally I decided I'll try anything and put in ^n
(I'm sighted so I thought if there are multiple columns on a page I
would have seen it). Bingo, one column break. I used replace to put in
a page break with blank lines around it, then submitted again. Voila,
the number of pages and page breaks agree. So, apparently, you can have
a column break but still only one column on a page. I don't know how to
create a page like that, but apparently someone's ocr program did.
I'd be interested to know, if text is set up in columns on purpose, does
a screen reader tell you when you have moved from one column to another,
or does it just keep reading on as though nothing was different?
Misha
On 4/18/2013 11:42 AM, Debby Franson wrote:
> Hi Misha and everyone!
>
> How would I know if I ever encounter a column break?
>
> Debby
>
> At 06:17 AM 4/4/2013, misha wrote
>> The only thing I can think of is look for section breaks ^b or column
>> breaks ^n in addition to page breaks. That would mess things up.
>> Sometimes when I submit a book the total number of pages bookshare
>> reports is not the same that I counted and when I searched for
>> section or column breaks that's what caused the difference.
>>
>> Misha
>>
>> On 4/3/2013 8:30 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>> I worked on Dharma Vahini, and approved it twice now, but Madeleine
>>> keeps sending it back saying pages are missing. This is the 2nd time
>>> it's come bouncing back to me.
>>> I open the RTF file and go to the page she says is missing, and it's
>>> there, with a page number and a page break. Some of the ones she
>>> says are missing only have a page number and [blank page], being,
>>> well, blank in the book. I even did a search for ^m, to be sure
>>> there was a hard page break, and there is.
>>> I'm really mystified. Anyone have any ideas?
>>> Tracy
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