[bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone want to re-submit 100 Women Who Shaped World History?
- From: "Allison" <alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Volunteer List" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 01:16:19 -0400
Thanks Marissa, this clears things up a lot. I appreciate your taking the time
to write back on this one!
I also appreciate your taking out the personal complaint-type comments when
forwarding rescan requests to the list. After all, we definitely dont' wanna
scare away new scanners or validators! <smile>.
Agreed,
Allison
----- Original Message -----
From: Marissa Mika
To: Allison ; bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone want to re-submit 100 Women Who
Shaped World History?
Hi Allison,
Thanks much for writing.
I definitely agree that the book is of fair quality, which is why I'm in no
hurry to take it off of the site as live. I should also note that this is the
first complaint Bookshare has heard about the specific book's quality in the
six months that it's been on site, which leads me to think that it has been
downloaded by other users, and has been happily read. Also, you did exactly the
correct thing by posting a brief note about the circumstances under which the
book was scanned.
As for general guidelines to submitting books, I am also in complete
agreement that if a book is readable for you, or even a part of it is readable,
best to submit it and see what happens. That said, I think it's perfectly
reasonable for a volunteer or reader to improve a fair submission if they want
to take the time and the effort. I think it improves the quality of the
Bookshare collection if we do periodically update 'fair' quality books to
'good' status, and even helps to subvert some of the complaints that we get
from our more picky users. (Cindy, thanks for taking the initiative on this.)
While I don't want the list-serve turn into a public complaint forum about
the quality of the books on Bookshare, there is something to be said for
responding to specific complaints about the quality of the books on site.
(i.e.-responsiveness to customers, trying to maintain a general spirit of
improving quality) In the future, if I get complaints about specific titles, I
will still alert the list-serve and have a call for re-scanning or
re-validation. To balance it out, I'll be sure to delete any editorializing
about the quality of the scan that may have been included in the original
complaint.
Let me reiterate that this is not to discourage anyone from submitting any
and all scanned books, nor do I want to undercut anyone's efforts in adding
more books to Bookshare.org. Not only are your submissions welcome, sought
after, desired and appreciated, they are what makes Bookshare.org work. After
wrestling with OCR errors and scanning jams for these past few months myself, I
understand how much time and effort goes into this project, want to thank you
for your efforts.
Your patience and comments are always appreciated.
All the best,
Marissa
-----Original Message-----
From: Allison [mailto:alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:12 AM
To: Marissa Mika
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone want to re-submit 100 Women Who Shaped
World History?
----- Original Message -----
From: Allison
To: Volunteer List
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone want to re-submit 100 Women Who Shaped
World History?
Marissa and others,
Dave is absolutely correct here. The book was submitted and approved over
six months ago. I posted on list about the book at the time, explaining the
situation in which the book had been scanned. It was marked as fair,
validated, and accepted by Bookshare administrators. that was why I was
surprised to hear complaints.
As I've always heard it told, Bookshare will take submissions of scanned
books of any quality. That doesn't mean they will all be accepted, but
each one is worth submitting. I've heard something like, and I paraphrase
here, "...if you can read and use the book... chances are... someone else
will as well." Thus the reason I submitted it, I knew it wasn't great, but
any peace that could possibly benefit the collection, is said to be worth
the submit.
I know many many individuals who are afraid to submit their books to
Bookshare because they worry that their scans are not good enough. I try to
encourage them by stating the line I paraphrased above. I also say, what's
the worst that can happen?? So the book is rejected? No one is any worse
off for it, and if anything, it could bee accepted, added to the collection,
and thereby read by many others.
Still there are people who will not submit because of this fear. And
honestly, if I were a new validater or potential first-time-submitter, this
thread would definitely not make me feel eager and ready to submit. IS this
the kind of environment we want to create?
If someone wishes to rescan it, that's fine. I am very appreciative of
their efforts. However, posting a member's personal complaints, about a
specific title, to a public listserv seems a bit extreme to me.
Also, if a book is approved, does that not mean that it is considered
quality for the site? If I am mistaken on this point, please let me know.
Best,
Allison
----- Original Message -----
From: <
talmage@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Anyone want to re-submit 100 Women Who Shaped
World History?
> Hi Cindy,
>
> I believe the book being discussed is one that is already in the Bookshare
> library, not one on the validation page. Perhaps if you are interested in
> spiffing it up, and since you don't have access to it, you could ask
> Marissa to put a copy on the validation page.
>
> Dave
>
> At 12:38 AM 10/2/2004, you wrote:
>>It's no longer on the download list (or at least
>>wasn't a few hours ago) so either someone has quickly
>>validated it doing just the basics and approved and
>>uploaded it or someone is validating it now. I've
>>requested the book and am willing to do it -- I've
>>decided to make it my mission to take the books rated
>>Fair .
>>
>>Cindy
>>
>>-- Allison <
alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>
>> > I scanned it... and yes... the quality was not
>> > great. It was a quick scan I needed for a class.
>> > It is all there though, and obviously readable
>> > enough for someone, not me, to validate and approve
>> > it. I've read it and it's not too bad. Also, I did
>> > post to both Bookshare lists a while back and told
>> > everyone that the quality was questionable but would
>> > appreciate someone giving it a chance. No one
>> > seemed to mind it.
>> >
>> > I'd rescan it, but honestly, it is marked fair, and
>> > fair it is. It is also a book from a library I am
>> > no longer a member of. If someone else wants to do
>> > it, my best to you!
>> >
>> > Allison
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Marissa Mika
>> > To:
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 7:55 PM
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Anyone want to re-submit
>> > 100 Women Who Shaped World History?
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I received this email earlier today about 100
>> > Women Who Shaped World History. If anyone wants to
>> > scan and re-submit it, that would be terrific. I'm
>> > going to keep it online for now, but if anyone else
>> > feels that it is unreadable, let me know.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Marissa
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello -- I just thought I'd mention a very poor
>> > quality book I
>> >
>> > downloaded
>> >
>> > > from bookshare.org.
>> >
>> > > The book is "100 Women Who Shaped World
>> > History".
>> >
>> > > It is a very interesting book, but there are so
>> > many scan errors that
>> >
>> > it
>> >
>> > > is
>> >
>> > > almost impossible to read.
>> >
>> > > I wonder if someone could re-scan the book, as
>> > the parts that are
>> >
>> > legible
>> >
>> > > are very interesting.
>> >
>> > > It's a shame it is in such bad condition.
>> >
>> > > Most books I download are mostly free of errors.
>> > This is the first
>> >
>> > that
>> >
>> > > is
>> >
>> > > really bad.
>> >
>> > > Just thought I'd mention it.
>> >
>> > > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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