[bksvol-discuss] Re: All this talk of dashes I thought I would dash a note

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 18:49:01 -0700

Did I say "sentence" there?  Oh, brother, I gotta get outta here! <grin>

----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 6:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: All this talk of dashes I thought I would dash a note



You have a dilemma then. Do you turn hyphen correction off, if you have it, or leave it on? If you turn it off, then everything is hyphenated correctly, plus you get a lot of words that just happen to be hyphenated because they come at the end of a sentence. I used to have an OSCAR which didn't have hyphen correcting and there can be quite a few of them in a whole book. However, if you turn hyphen correction on, you may lose some hyphens at the ends of lines which should be there. I generally go for the latter option, because you don't lose those hyphens that are not at the end of lines, and if any words which should be hyphenated get "fixed" you can usually tell what they are-if you have seen that word before and know that it should be hyphenated. But there's a risk that you haven't seen it before and may not know that it is supposed to be hyphenated. Of course, if you come across the same word again, and it is hyphenated, you can conclude that it was "fixed" by the scanner and go back and correct the "correction. With leaving hyphen correction off, though, you won't have the problem of the OCR dehyphenating words that shouldn't be, but then you have to get rid of all those that just divide up a word because it comes inconveniently at the end of a line. I leave it on, though, because it is a lot less work fixing up the relatively much fewer dehyphenated words that shouldn't have been than taking out all those that need to be removed. But in an older book, or a peculiar one, things might be different. You must use your judgment.

original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: All this talk of dashes I thought I would dash a note



Hi, Katie.

I'm not sure your example is a good one. It looks as
if waterfall is hyphenated because the word waterfall
came at the end of the sentence. the blue-water would
mean that the water in the fall is blue.

Depending on when and where a book was written, some
words that we today do not hyphenate, like "today"
were hyphenated--"to-day." When I come across a book
like that I put that comment in the long synopsis--I
do the same when the words are spelled the English way
rather than the American way, e.g. when words that in
American end in o r end in o u r , like the word
honor. In a book that Mickey is currently validating
(I'm helping supply some pages), sometimes the
American spelling is used and sometimes the English;
it isn't consistent. I think she'll put that
explanation in.

But back to you hyphen question: when one adjective is
created from two or more adjectives, or from an
adjective and a noun, a hyphen is used to indicate
that it is one word. For example, a red-eyed bull; a
twenty-four-year-old girl. In some cases not
hyphenating can lead to a different
meaning--unfortunately not in the examples I gave.
Here's a quote from the seciton on hyphens in the book
Eats, Shoots and Leaves, an amusing book about grammar
that is in the bookshare collection: "if it's not
extra-marital sex (with a hyphen), it is perhaps
extra marital sex, which is quite a different bunch of
coconuts." Another example she gives is "the
pickled-herring merchant," who "can hold his head
high," but a pickled herring merchant might be
arrested for intoxication, smile

hth

Cindy





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