[bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page numbers

  • From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:11:17 -0500

Hi Shelley,

In older versions of K1000, it may have missed a page break here and there if you had scanned two pages but only one of them had text, or the OCR engine thought the two pages were two columns. You can reference the release notes for exact details on the upgrade.

All that said, if you're missing significant numbers of page breaks, are you sure the BrailleNote isn't at fault? Either application could be the culpret, although I cannot speak for how accurate the BrailleNote is, having never used one.

Jake
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page numbers



Not all the time.  K 1000 did not keep the page breaks in several of the
books I am editiong on the BN.

Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Willyard" <plumlipstick@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page
numbers



Elizabeth, though I agree that page numbers are useful, there is a wide variety of OCR technology in use by submitters. K1000 handles page numbers fairly well, and I know you're used to that. However, Openbook and Omnipage make a mess of most headers and page numbers. Requiring page breaks in files was relatively easy to enforce, especially since most OCR packages insert them automatically. Page numbering is not an automated feature in Openbook, though it might be in K1000. I could go in and guess at page numbers if it were a requirement, but would my guess be accurate? Probably not since I'd just number the pages in order. If I did that, it would be the equivalent of what the Bookshare tools do now, so you'd get the same results. As a validater, you may have no way of knowing how accurate my page numbers are without access to the print book, so how could you standardize the process? Most of our submitters don't even strip headers right now. Do you think that they will make time to check each page number? I know for sure that I wouldn't. I'd strip headers automatically, use Word to number my pages, and let the powers that be figure it out on their end.

Monica Willyard

At Wednesday 10/18/2006 06:51 PM, you wrote:
Cannot imagine what is taking them so long in changing so that page
numbers are a requirment.  On the other hand, we had talked about
getting rid of .txt files for over eighteen months before they
finally were banned.  I guess these things take a long long time to
resolve somehow.

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