I got up early <yawn> and set up my Meade 4 inch f:10 SCT on my new CubePro alt-az mount, right on my balcony here in Fountain Hills, elevation 1900 ft overlooking the Four Peaks range to the east. The CubePro was set up and ready in a jiffy, which made it all easy with its built-in GPS. With an 11mm Brandon eyepiece, I watched Venus slide behind the lunar crescent, and noted the brilliant white color. Contrary to Steve's observation, I estimated it took about 45 seconds (counting them off by hand) for the crescent parts to be covered by the Moon's motion -- could not see the dark part of the ball of Venus, of course. The two "horns" just touched the lunar limb together at the start, as seen from here in FH... There could be a considerable difference in the angle that Venus approached the Moon, from two widely-separated observing locations, of course, which would produce a difference in timing. I, too, noted the effect of the white Venus crescent appearing to slightly overlap the Moon's surface -- the technical term is "irradiance" and it is evidently caused by the contrast and brilliance of the image. This effect is also contributed to by scintillation and seeing variations. This effect has also been noted sometimes in the case of Supergiant stars during lunar occultations. I did not stay up to observe the egress from behind the Moon... I lost the Moon in the sunrise sky, but that may also have been due to a Jacaranda tree that is in the way... Perfectly clear skies this morning... I left the photography and videography to others this time... Gene Lucas (17250) As usual, I just copied Rick and Steve's earlier, longish memos on the end of mine, and got bit (again) by The Dreaded Net Nanny.... What a stupid limitation, IMHO !! GL -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.