[AZ-Observing] Re: The Astronomy Shoppe
- From: "Stanley A. Gorodenski" <stanlep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:07:55 -0700
You misunderstand. I did not pay the treasurer only _one_ month in
advance. I sent a check to the treasurer on November 6th, but in
personal communication with S&T they said they did not receive my
renewal from the treasurer until the first part of January (this year).
This is _two_ months later. They also checked their records and told me
that in the past they have gotten my renewals in November, and I always
have received the issues without interruption. Had the treasurer sent
my subscription when it was received (or shortly thereafter), I would
not have been out _two_ (not three) back issues. Naturally, I did get
them, but there are disadvantages from getting back issues all at once.
If you recall, AJ also was late getting issues. He asked the question
either in this list or the SAC list (I don't remember which) whether
anyone else was experiencing the same problem. This started my
communications with the treasurer and S&T.
I wish the treasurer was as responsive as you. I had forwarded all my
correspondence with S&T, attempting to find out what had happened. No
response. As Rick correctly pointed out, this is a hobby and not
serious business. A response or explanation of the ground rules (such
as the ones you have laid out in this message) would have been nice,
though, if nothing else than to avoid getting one in this forum under
inappropriate circumstances.
The end result of this is that from now I will have a personal
subscription to S&T. This is more expensive, but it avoids the kind of
problems I have with clubs. At one time this had been my practice, but
I was convinced by another club to start a subscription through them to
save a few bucks. When my subscription came up for renewal I sent my
subscription to the treasurer _FIVE_ months in advance. I still
continued getting renewal notices. I kept reminding the treasurer, but
my subscription still ended up being late one month, i.e., I received
one back issue.
My initial message that started this was not a personal message to
anyone. Az-Observing says "Please send personal inquiries directly to
the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal
messages." If you wish to continue this discussion, I think it would be
better for all involved to do so in personal communication or the
SAC-Board list. I don't wish to antagonize or embarrass anyone, but I
will respond in this forum, if I feel I have to, if a personal message
is sent to me in this forum.
Stan
Spicastar wrote:
>
> Ha ha Stan, you are such an amateur flame-baiter. We don't respond to that
> sort of glog on here tho sorry. I should mention tho that you can't expect
> to get S&T the next month when you order it however, it just don't work that
> way. Ask S&T if you don't believe me. They want TWO months advance to start
> a subscription or renew. What they do is just send back issues back to the
> date you lapsed so you "don't miss any". SAC will soon announce (like I hear
> EVAC does) that we need THREE months advance on subscriptions. Then no false
> expectations. You need to pay your dues in advance anyway to keep the
> Treasurer happy. They are volunteer you know. Why make their job harder than
> it is? We haven't had "untimely" newsletters for over a year now when we
> had editor problems that time. They are volunteer also, and if no one
> volunteers, or volunteers and decides it's not for them, you could have a
> late newsletter or two (Oh mercy!). Cut some slack, Mack!
>
> Jack Jones
> President - SAC
> Spicastar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > As I stated in my previous message, the shop had become more of a job
> > than Dick had anticipated, and when he hired a manager to relieve him of
> > time, it ended up taking more of his time. Although he may have loosely
> > told others he is retiring, he told me he wasn't retiring in the usual
> > sense of the word. He still has another business. What he said was that
> > he will have more time to do other things (as you pointed out AJ), such
> > as attending SAC meetings (he told me this), but I had to warn him that
> > the newsletter by snailmail is frequently untimely, it hardly ever
> > states who the main speaker will be for the next meeting, and there have
> > been some problems with S&T subscriptions being late. (Sorry SAC, but I
> > have to be honest.)
> >
> > We need to be able to accept what he is doing without without having to
> > justify it amongst ourselves, and "let the healing process begin" (you
> > should see my tongue in my cheek).
> >
> > Stan
> > p.s. I am leaving for Long Beach early tomorrow morning and won't be
> > back until late Wednesday night. I won't be able to respond to flames,
> > or club excomunications, until Thursday at the earliest.
> >
> >
> > AJ Crayon wrote:
> > >
> > > To all, Rick's message here hits the spot!!
> > >
> > > Like it or not, life is an ever changing process and Dick has reached
> > > the point where he wants time to do more of what he wants.
> > >
> > > We should be thankful for the service provided and wish him well.
> > >
> > > No doubt if there is a market, and I believe there is one, the slack
> > > will be taken up - somehow by someone. Let's just be patient.
> > >
> > > I look forward to the night when Dick joins us to enjoy the delights of
> > > the night sky.
> > >
> > > AJ Crayon
> > >
> > > Rick Scott wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was at the Astronomy Shoppe this last Monday and bought some
> > > > eyepieces. While there, I asked Dick about his closing and he told me
> > > > that he was retiring. He has been in the business long enough and it's
> > > > time to spend time for himself. I also bought my first telescope from
> > > > him at his old shop on Cave Creek Road.
> > > >
> > > > Rick Scott
> > > > http://members.home.net/rmscott
> > > >
> > >
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