Thanks for the heads-up (no pun intended) on this, Tom. Tonight's viewing was excellent. Both objects were visible from SW of Ursa Major to about Altair. I agree with your magnitude estimates. I did _try_ to track at 170x but I won't be that bold in the future (at least not with the scope I had out tonight - 8" Celestron SC). I thought I saw something off to the SW of the Shuttle (approx. 1/2 shuttle length away) as it cruised by, but I can't be certain. I could make out the solar panels against the main compartment of the ISS and yes, they were orange by comparison. Thanks, again, for bringing this to my (our) attention. Sam Tucson http://www.balinka.com/astronomy.htm --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.