AJ - Although "overnight camping" is not allowed in the parking lot itself, the nearby surrounding area (that is not in Wupatki National Monument) is all in the Coconino National Forest and is open (even now with all the fire restrictions) to camping. E.g. a mile or two before you reach the parking lot, there is a FS dirt road off to the right where one could pull in and camp. The horizon's of course slightly better at the parking lot, but since this area is all Pinyon, the horizon is not really that bad anywhere unless you want to look relatively close to the horizon. There is also a developed campsite (Bonito Campground) about 15? miles away on this same loop road, by Sunset Crater. See http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/volcanic/bonito_camp.html for info. The Cinder Hills Overlook nearby (at about 8000') in the Sunset Crater monument is also an adequate observing site although not as dark as around Wupatki. The Crater rises high in the southwest, but this blocks most of what light there is here from Flagstaff. A map of this whole area is available as http://www.nps.gov/wupa/ppmaps/wupamap.pdf By the way, I've also been told by a ranger at Wupatki that sites there could be used for overnight observing and camping (and there are several very good such sites), but only after requesting and receiving a special use permit. They don't really have any objection to a few people staying overnight to observe, but they're of course very concerned about pot hunters, etc. stealing stuff at night. - Brent ----- Forwarded by Brent A Archinal/GD/USGS/DOI on 06/01/2002 01:02 PM ----- AJ Crayon <acrayon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 05/31/2002 06:26 PM Please respond to az-observing To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc: Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: No. AZ Observing Sites & Forest Closures Bill, guess that shoots a two nighter down for that site. Coming from Phoenix, a trip that far is a bit much for an overnighter - unless it was for something special. Thanks, aj BillFerris@xxxxxxx wrote: > AJ Crayon wrote: > > > Bill, do people camp there for a couple of days or so? I'm thinking of say > > Friday through Sunday. Is this even allowed? > > Unfortunately, overnight camping isn't allowed at Doney Mtn picnic area. > There was a couple from New Jersey who spent the night in their rented RV > following an observing session with some members of CAS. Apparently, they > weren't disturbed. I've never encountered any forest service staff during the > handful of times I've observed there. -- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. See this message's header if you want info about unsubscribing or the list's archive. This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.