OK, I am making progress. I used the "corner guiding" technique and the shots are much better. The stars are not round, but they are not trailed 3X1. I now am motivated to get the autoguider set up working. I assume that it will be reacting faster than I will with the handpaddle. Thanks; Steve Coe -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.