Scott, et al; I will try the "corner guiding" trick tonight and see what I can get. Bernard, I don't have the money for anymore astronomy stuff for the next two months or so. Therefore, I need to get this setup working. He says hopefully;-) I didn't think of the camera rotating, that could be it as well. Also, the 2X Barlow I have is long and it might rotate some. It is possible that I will need to drill some holes and tap them to get a better grip on the diagonal and Barlow. Let me experiment for tonight and see what I get, thanks; Steve Coe -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.