Steve, You may learn some from plain old graph paper like distortion, chromatic aberration and softening in the corners, but there is much more that can be measured using the appropriate test targets. Below is a link to a web site put together by Norman Koren, an ex Hewlett-Packard engineer and fine photographer, with tons of great information on everything technical you may want to learn about film and digital photography. You may even learn some things that will cause you to spend more money on better equipment, but as you well know, good equipment is worth it. http://www.normankoren.com/Tutorials/MTF5.html This link will take you to his lens testing page, but I'm sure you can figure out how to find the rest of his wonderful site. I've spent many very worthwhile hours absorbing what he presents. Enjoy Learning, Rick -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Eyepiece religions Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:19:30 -0700 From: Steve Coe <stevecoe@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Brian, et al; I would seem that the makers of eyepieces want it that way. I don't know enough of the science of optics to speak too much about using an optical bench. But, in the era of the digital SLR camera could not a knowledgeable person aim the eyepieces at a flat sheet of graph paper, take an image and learn quite a bit from that image? Just thinking out loud; Steve Coe -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Skiff Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:06 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Eyepiece religions It's too bad the marketplace has made it difficult to determine actual facts about the eyepiece designs as actually sold, so as to allow the discussion to be brought into the realm of quantitative comparison rather than "religion". The US magazines (at least) provide no such information, and without a pretty good optical-bench set-up, it would be a lot of work (and expense) to reverse-engineer the commerical products. Maybe some patent searches would turn up actual specs you could run into an optical-design program to yield details about image quality, color aberrations, field curvature, distortion, etc. I know this was done for the original Nagler design (it was in an issue of 'Telescope Making' back in the 80s), but what about the many newer styles that have come out since then? \Brian -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.