It's too bad the marketplace has made it difficult to determine actual facts about the eyepiece designs as actually sold, so as to allow the discussion to be brought into the realm of quantitative comparison rather than "religion". The US magazines (at least) provide no such information, and without a pretty good optical-bench set-up, it would be a lot of work (and expense) to reverse-engineer the commerical products. Maybe some patent searches would turn up actual specs you could run into an optical-design program to yield details about image quality, color aberrations, field curvature, distortion, etc. I know this was done for the original Nagler design (it was in an issue of 'Telescope Making' back in the 80s), but what about the many newer styles that have come out since then? \Brian -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.