Matt, I haven't done a survey but do have some observations from my backyard in northwest Phoenix. From a long time ago it was possible to see the Milky Way in Cygnus if you sat down for several minutes to avoid the street light two blocks away and get better dark adapted. I haven't tried the dark adaption technique lately but the sky does seem brighter. A long time ago the only stars visible in the Little Dipper were Polaris and Kochab and is still true today. That put's the limit for this area of sky at about 2.0 - and this is the darkest part of the sky. All of these observations were done between evening twilight and midnight. As far as doing a survey for Phoenix . . . the results can vary from hardly nothing to considerable depending on locations. Clear skies, aj Matt Luttinen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > > Night adaptation is impossible at my place, so it didn't figure in my > observation. I just stepped out to take a peak.=20 > > I always thought that Phoenix skies were mag 3 at best. Has anyone = > actually > done a survey on the limiting mag here in town? Is anyone crazy enough = > to do > this? Does anyone care? My experience tonight, and thinking how the = > light > dome at Flatiron seems to recede as it gets late, leads me to believe = > that > Phoenix skies can get better late at night. It's just another reason to = > stay > up late, I guess. What say you all? > > Enquiring minds want to know . . . > > Matt -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.