At 03:12 AM 9/22/2003 -0700, Matt L. wrote: >I always thought that Phoenix skies were mag 3 at best. Has anyone >actually done a survey on the limiting mag here in town? I have never done a survey, but I can say that all of the stars of the Little Dipper are visible from my place a mile south of ASU. The two Handle stars beside Polaris are mag. 4.3 and 4.2. By far, the most difficult is Eta UMi, at 5.0, but it's always there. This is not to say my sky is good. When it's overhead, the star cloud in Cygnus between Sadr and Albireo is only faintly visible. >My experience tonight, and thinking how the light dome at Flatiron seems to recede as it gets late, leads me to believe that Phoenix skies can get better late at night. It certainly gets better after midnight. At the very least, many athletic feild and billboard lights go off. A small number of people even turn off their porch lights. Tom -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.