Thad; I had made it clear to the ranger last weekend that we had no intention of driving onto the meadow and that we were going to move the scopes out into the meadow to use them and leave our vehicles in the treeline. She said that would be just fine. One piece of equipment that might be of use to folks this weekend is a folding table. If you are used to working off the tailgate of your vehicle, then a folding table will make a big difference when it comes time to use your scope and keep equipment off of the ground. Take care; Steve Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.