Ok everyone, here's the skinny on 5 Mile Meadow. Just talked to a Mr. Henry Brill, and while he was obviously concerned, he was very generous about our needs. Much like Steve has said, he definately wants us as close to the tree line as possible. If you want a view of the Northern sky, he would prefer that you lug your gear further out, and keep your vehicle into the tree line near your campsite. He absolutely does not want us parked any further into the meadow than totally necessary. He also wants us to avoid using the same tire tracks for the whole group, in other words, disperse the tracks to minimize the effect of our being there. I also promised I'd post these basic rules.... NO open flames. Smoking in vehicles only. NO going to the middle of the meadow. Whenever you park, make sure that you are not parked on vegatation high enough to contact your catalytic converter/muffler. Gas grills OK, but raking area of dried vegatation is HIGHLY recommended. He also suggested getting a Porta-Potty if it was a group of more than 20 people. I'll bring this up to the SAC Board. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I really do feel that the FS is doing us a huge favor. Let's let them know we appreciate it by adhering to their rules. Thad -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.