atw: Re: Use of 457 Visas in the IT Industry ...
- From: Bill Parker <bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 10:49:31 +0800
I have evidence of people being ousted from their jobs in childcare and
replaced by people from Ireland. One of the agencies, conducts regular
recruiting tours of Ireland.
Bill
On 07/05/2013, at 10:30 AM, Michelle Hallett wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I don't know much about the American context. I do know that I lost a job for
> which I was qualified last year to someone on a 457 visa.
>
> I have a mortgage to pay so I can't live on $50,000 and I suspect there are
> others like me. Paying people $50,000 a year to do work for which I would ask
> $80-100,000 undercuts the money people like us can earn. I also spent a lot
> of money at university and doing additional courses to keep up with
> technology so I expect to earn more than $50,000.
>
> I'm all for other people living a decent lifestyle, though I'd prefer it
> didn't undercut my own.
>
> Regards
> Michelle
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Hildred
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2013 11:43 AM
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> Subject: atw: Re: Use of 457 Visas in the IT Industry ...
>
> Sorry, Neil, where are you going with that?
>
> From the NYTimes article, I took away that the H1-B program is good for
> America, and is being advocated for by conservatives. But the American
> context is not the Austrlian context.
>
> In the Australian context, you can't pay someone less than $50 000 on a 457.
> That isn't exactly low-wage. It may not be Jay-z money, but it allows skilled
> people to take jobs that Australians aren't interested and live a decent
> lifestyle.
>
> I'm wary of drawing attention to the 457 program without providing context
> because of recent rhetoric coming from the political class. Who seem to
> ignore the presence of their own 457 staff while attempting to stir up some
> kind of populist nationalism in a desperate attempt to win votes.
>
> Tim Hildred, RHCE
> Content Author II - Engineering Content Services, Red Hat, Inc.
> Brisbane, Australia
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Neil Maloney" <maloneyn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 2:27:54 PM
>> Subject: atw: Use of 457 Visas in the IT Industry ...
>>
>> Someone on the list in the last few days (I am sure) mentioned that
>> there are a lot of dodgy workers in IT under the 457 scheme. Had a
>> good look for that mail, can't find it, the dog must have eaten it.
>>
>> I thought I'd post this link about what's happening in the US of A
>> with their H-1B scheme, from today's New York Times:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/us/politics/tech-firms-take-lead-in-
>> lobbying-on-immigration.html?hp&_r=0
>>
>>
>> From the article:
>>
>> Silicon Valley lobbyists told Senate negotiators they agreed that the
>> H1-B visa system had been subject to abuse. Go after the companies
>> that take advantage of guest worker visas and give us the benefit of
>> the doubt, they told the Senate staff members, according to interviews
>> with several lobbyists.
>>
>> “You know and we know there are some bad people in this system,” is
>> how Scott Corley, the president of Compete America, a technology
>> industry coalition, recalled the conversation. “We are simply trying
>> to make sure that as they are pursuing the rats they are not sinking the
>> ship.”
>>
>> That acknowledgment, several lobbyists said privately, helped unlock
>> an impasse in negotiations.
>>
>> What emerged was a Senate measure that allows American technology
>> companies to procure many more skilled guest worker visas, raising the
>> limit to
>> 110,000 a year from 65,000 under current law, along with a provision
>> to expand it further based on market demand. The bill would also allow
>> these companies to move workers on guest visas more easily to
>> permanent resident visas, freeing up more temporary visas for these
>> companies.
>>
>> But it requires them to pay higher wages for guest workers and to post
>> job openings on a Web site, so Americans can have a chance at them.
>> And it draws a line in the sand between these technology firms and the
>> mostly Indian companies that supply computer workers on H-1B visas for
>> short-term jobs at companies in the United States.
>>
>> ... and I'm not necessarily saying that this is good news.
>> Unemployment in the US is running at 7.5% and this deal allows more
>> foreign workers to be brought in (although the bill hasn't been passed yet).
>>
>> Neil.
>>
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