atw: Re: Use of 457 Visas in the IT Industry ...
- From: Tim Hildred <thildred@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 21:43:21 -0400 (EDT)
Sorry, Neil, where are you going with that?
From the NYTimes article, I took away that the H1-B program is good for
America, and is being advocated for by conservatives. But the American context
is not the Austrlian context.
In the Australian context, you can't pay someone less than $50 000 on a 457.
That isn't exactly low-wage. It may not be Jay-z money, but it allows skilled
people to take jobs that Australians aren't interested and live a decent
lifestyle.
I'm wary of drawing attention to the 457 program without providing context
because of recent rhetoric coming from the political class. Who seem to ignore
the presence of their own 457 staff while attempting to stir up some kind of
populist nationalism in a desperate attempt to win votes.
Tim Hildred, RHCE
Content Author II - Engineering Content Services, Red Hat, Inc.
Brisbane, Australia
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Maloney" <maloneyn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 2:27:54 PM
> Subject: atw: Use of 457 Visas in the IT Industry ...
>
> Someone on the list in the last few days (I am sure) mentioned that there are
> a lot of dodgy workers in IT under the 457 scheme. Had a good look for that
> mail, can't find it, the dog must have eaten it.
>
> I thought I'd post this link about what's happening in the US of A with their
> H-1B scheme, from today's New York Times:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/us/politics/tech-firms-take-lead-in-lobbying-on-immigration.html?hp&_r=0
>
>
> From the article:
>
> Silicon Valley lobbyists told Senate negotiators they agreed that the H1-B
> visa system had been subject to abuse. Go after the companies that take
> advantage of guest worker visas and give us the benefit of the doubt, they
> told the Senate staff members, according to interviews with several
> lobbyists.
>
> “You know and we know there are some bad people in this system,” is how Scott
> Corley, the president of Compete America, a technology industry coalition,
> recalled the conversation. “We are simply trying to make sure that as they
> are pursuing the rats they are not sinking the ship.”
>
> That acknowledgment, several lobbyists said privately, helped unlock an
> impasse in negotiations.
>
> What emerged was a Senate measure that allows American technology companies
> to procure many more skilled guest worker visas, raising the limit to
> 110,000 a year from 65,000 under current law, along with a provision to
> expand it further based on market demand. The bill would also allow these
> companies to move workers on guest visas more easily to permanent resident
> visas, freeing up more temporary visas for these companies.
>
> But it requires them to pay higher wages for guest workers and to post job
> openings on a Web site, so Americans can have a chance at them. And it draws
> a line in the sand between these technology firms and the mostly Indian
> companies that supply computer workers on H-1B visas for short-term jobs at
> companies in the United States.
>
> ... and I'm not necessarily saying that this is good news. Unemployment in
> the US is running at 7.5% and this deal allows more foreign workers to be
> brought in (although the bill hasn't been passed yet).
>
> Neil.
>
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