What tool are you writing in Ilana? In Word, you'd use sections to delimit each part of the doc and change the page numbering scheme. In which case you can use the field SectionPages to get the total number of pages for that section. So the page reference looks like {PAGE} of {SECTIONPAGES} If you've more than the two sections (TOC and subject matter) it would get complicated though. Rob -----Original Message----- Ilana asked : 2. Make the final page count a formula which is the actual number of text in the document (not including the TOC). Which method is better? If you nominate method two, how do I construct this formula so that it will be automatically updated as pages are added to the document. Thanks for your advice. Ilana ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************