[audacity4blind] Re: Proposed changes to names of tracks - feedback wanted

  • From: David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 08:46:28 +0000 (UTC)

Hi Robbie,
I don't know very much about Jaws scripting, but I think it's unlikely that the
"goto" feature could be scripted,

David.


On Saturday, 6 June 2015, 14:22, Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi David!
Could this "goto" feature be scripted in JAWS? I'm thinking of the link lists
and header lists you can call up with JAWS. Such a thing for tracks would be
brilliant, although of course it's always preferable to have accessibility
features built into the program, rather than the screen reader. I say
accessibility feature because I assume sighted people can use the mouse to
quickly scroll through a long track list.

Cheers! Robbie
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Hi Robbie,
concerning moving tracks to a specific place, and moving the focus to a
specific track. Unfortunately these won't be in the next release, but I'm
still aware of these feature requests. For moving focus to a specific track
using its first letter, this would have to done in a "goto" dialog, as letters
can be used as shortcuts in the main audacity window.
A couple of related things will be in the next release:
1. Ctrl+Home and Ctrl+End will move the focus to the first and last track.
2. Move Up/down/Top/And bottom will be proper commands. By default they don't
have shortcuts assigned to them, but you'll be able to assign shortcuts in
preferences.

David.



On Thursday, 4 June 2015, 9:42, Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi David!
Please, no changes to audio tracks. What with selected, solo and occasionally
synclock, there already is a rat's tail of info. Besides, most times you can
hear whether a track is stereo or mono. True, a centered recording can sound
like mono while being stereo, but the user should know their material.
Besides, when creating a new track you make a conscious decision which kind of
track it should be. And if you're uncertain you can just check the context
menu and you'll know which it is.

While we're on tracks, I'm hoping for the previously discussed option of
moving tracks to a specific place. Will that feature in the upcoming version?
Another thing I would warmly welcome is an option to set the focus to a
specific track. The other day I had a project with over 100 tracks and it was
a pain in the proverbial to have to cursor up and down. It would for instance
be nice if you could enter a target track number or even press the initial
letter of the track name like in Windows Explorer.

That said, I do appreciate all the work that goes into Audacity, of which I'm
an enthusiast. Thumbs up folks!

Cheers! Robbie
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Proposed changes to names of tracks - feedback
wanted

Hi,
based on suggestions by Robert Hänggi, these are a couple of proposed changes
to the names of tracks read out by screen readers:
1. For audio tracks, if the track is stereo, left, or right, then these words
are spoken immediately after the name of the track. So if you had a track
"intro music", and it was stereo, then it would be read as "intro music
stereo". If the track is mono, then that word isn't spoken.
2. For Label tracks, if the track has its default name - you haven't changed
its original name, then the two words "label track" are spoken after the name
of the track, for example, "track 3 label track". If you change the name of
the track, to for example "labels", then the words "label track" are not
spoken.

I know that when changes to track names were raised in the past, there were
concerns about increasing the verbosity too much. I hope that the above
changes may provide valuable information without increasing the verbosity too
much.
Any feedback about these changes is welcome, preferably as soon as possible,
as the changes for the next version of Audacity are going to be finalized
within the next few days,

thanks,
David.

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