While am pretty sure you could accomplish these types of vocal effects using something like a combination of vocoder, and/or types of distortion, am not exactly sure where to begin, or what to try out, but, here are two small samples of the type of thing am talking about from two relatively well-known, sort of industrial/alternative bands of the type of vocal effect am trying to figure out how to obtain - and, yes, I know the overall sound also has something to do with their singing style, but still: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13327195/voice1.mp3 and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13327195/voice2.mp3 TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'