Hello I am very new to this program I am trying to learn my way around this
program. But it seems rather difficult. I am also trying to learn how to move
the cursers around and listen to where they are. But having read this thread am
coming to the conclusion that I should install another program such as GOLD
WAVE I didn't know that gold wave was accessible so I stayed away from it.
I am trying to digitize vinyl and cassettes. And I want to make seperate tracks
for each song.Not Sure if Audasity is the best choice for this task but will
have fun trying.
-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandra Gayer
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:29 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Enhansing background noise.
Hello Everyone,
I know it's an unusual request but I want to make a background
instrument clear. It's hardl audible above te singers and I know
there's a way to, as it were, pull the vocals back to expose the
track. I've come across sighted engineers doing it, I just don't know
how to make Audacity do it. Is there something on the menue bar which
can achieve this?
Very best wishes,
Sandra.
On 7/21/15, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That sounds like a convenient feature. I'm not sure from your message what
you are describing but if you are saying that the feature will use commands
such as function keys to move the cursor and the right marker, as in
Goldwave, I think that would benefit more casual users of the program.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bailes" <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:12 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected time
range
Hi Gene,
just to let you know that there's a proposal under discussion to add
preset zoom levels like there are in goldwave, which would give a choice
of step sizes such as 0.1 second, 0.01 second, and so on. Not sure at the
moment when this will appear,
David.
On Monday, 20 July 2015, 20:08, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That's good to know as are the other matters discussed in response to my
question. However, the discussion raises, at least for me, another
question.
I would think that Audacity would serve more casual blind users better if
there were specific commands, perhaps function key commands for moving
the
cursor in small increments. These commands are available in goldwave and
in
Mp3 Direct Cut. I don't know how many other programs they are found in.
For more casual sighted users of Audacity, they may not be important. But
I
expect there are a lot of blind users who won't learn enough about the
program to have the information discussed in this thread. Audacity
should
be easy for the more casual user to use and having equivalent incremental
commands as in the very popular Goldwave and Mp3 Direct Cut may encourage
more casual blind users to adopt it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bailes" <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:53 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected
time
range
Hi Gene,
just to add that after importing a file, the zoom level depends on the
length of the file, and so can vary widely.
If you execute the zoom normal command (ctrl+2), then the step size is
set
to slightly more than a hundredth of a second. You can then zoom out or
in
from there. For example if you zoom out three times (ctrl+3, three
times),
then the step size will be just less than a tenth of a second.
David.
On Sunday, 19 July 2015, 17:12, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, I was discussing how you move both markers. I haven't tried the
methods
others discussed in answer to my question such as setting the zoom
level.
I
may play with the zoom level later today.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "L.F. Meijer (Pengaarde)" <lfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 11:04 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected
time
range
Hello, Gene,
I believe you wrote only about setting the right marker. Without left
marker there isnot a selection. Am I wrong?
Loek.
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:03 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected
time range
The commands don't do what I'm asking about. The point is not to
create
a
selection, the point is to incrementally adjust a selection you have
already
made, changing both the cursor and the right marker as needed. And the
shift left and right arrow commands don't change the selection
incrementally.
As an example of what I am describing, let's say you set the cursor
somewhere in a file. You then set the right marker.
using the listen commands you find that the cursor is a fraction of a
second
too far into the file and you find that the right marker is a fraction
of
a
second before the position you want it to be. There should be commands
that
allow you to move each marker incrementally, by a tiny fraction of a
second
back or forward. Pressing the move back or forward command repeatedly
would
allow you to move the markers very precisely to where you want them to
be.
this is an essential feature for blind people to be able to edit
precisely.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve the Fiddle" <stevethefiddle@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 6:26 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected
time
range
Gene wrote: "Shift left arrow and shift right arrow couldn't do what
is wanted because whatever they may do, they are only two commands"
The set of 4 commands are:
1) Shift + Left
2) Shift + Right
3) Ctrl + Shift + Left
4) Ctrl + Shift + Right.
For more details and additional selection commands, see;
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/audacity_selection.html#keyboard
Steve
On 19 July 2015 at 12:18, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No I don't have the JAWS scripts installed. And if I did, how would
shift
left and right arrow do what I want? I asked about moving the left
and
right markers by increments. That means being able to move them both
forward and badckward by tiny increments. Anyone who uses Goldwave
for
serious editing or Mp3 Direct Cut for serious editing should know
what
I
am
describing. Shift left arrow and shift right arrow couldn't do what
is
wanted because whatever they may do, they are only two commands.
What
is
needed are four commands. Move the left marker back incrementally,
move
the
left marker forward incrementally, move the right marker back
incrementally
and move the right arrow forward incrementally.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger"
<jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:43 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected
time
range
Gene, do you have the jaws scripts installed, and are you using
windows/jaws?
Asking since think those shift and ctrl + left and right commands
are
included in the jaws scripts.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's
closet..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 11:43 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected
time range
I doubt it. Are you talking about commands that change where you
are
listening in a file while it is playing? I know that the commands
you
gave
can change where you are listening. I don't know what, if
anything,
they do
when Audacity is stopped with a file opened. Whatever they may do
when
Audacity is stopped, they don't do what I am asking about. I am
asking
about commands that move the left marker or the cursor, the same
thing, a
tiny increment to the right and left and another set of commands
that
move
the right marker incrementally to the right and left.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "L.F. Meijer (Pengaarde)"
<lfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected
time range
Hello, Gene,
To change the selected fragment:
a. to move the end position to the right: shift-arrow right.
b. to move the start position to the left: shift-arrow left.
c. to move the end position to the left: control-shift-arrow left.
d. to move the start position to the right: control-shift-arrow
right.
Is this you wished to know?
Kind regards,
Loek.
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M: 06-30022688
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 10:45 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected
time range
Also, does audacity have a command to move a start or end marker
vack
or
forward by a fractional amount so you can not only hear where the
markers
are located, but also move them an incremental amount?
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "L.F. Meijer (Pengaarde)"
<lfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:47 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected
time
range
Hello, David,
The new commands as shift-f5 up to shift-f8 are useful additional
ones.
Thanks.
However, the c-command for a play cut preview was useful too.
This
command hasnot any
effect in the new version of Audacity, although it has been
defined
as
a
shortcut. How can I repair this?
Kind regards,
Loek.
********************
L.F. Meijer
Isaäc Sweersstraat 17
3861 EA Nijkerk
T: 033-2464374
M: 06-30022688
E: lfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
W: www.pengaarde.nl
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: David Bailes
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:14 PM
To: Audacity4blind
Subject: [audacity4blind] Playback commands for checking a
selected
time
range
In Audacity 2.1.1, there are four new playback commands to check
that
you've
selected the time range which you want:
1. To play a short period before selection start, press shift+F5.
2. To play a short period after selection start, press shift+F6.
3. To play a short period before selection end, press shift+F7.
4. To play a short period after selection end, press shift+F8.
Of these commands, shift+F7 to play a short period before
selection
end
will
probably be the most useful. It allows you to listen to the end
of
the
selection without having to listen to the whole selected time
range.
The periods before and after selection start/end share the same
settings as
the play cut preview command (C), and can be set in the playback
category of
Preferences.
These commands are similar to the corresponding commands
available
in
mp3directcut.
David.
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