[argyllcms] Re: Advice on profiling a high OBA paper
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- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2020 13:15:11 -0500
HI Kamil,
-5b with M0 is not so bad.
Thanks / Roger
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Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Advice on profiling a high OBA paper
Hi Roger,
it depends ... :)
results vary (and Lab is not sufficient parameter here), but mostly around -5b
under M0
cheers, K.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 2:04 AM <graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Kamil,
Did you specified what Lab (M0) reading you get on your OBA paper?
/ Roger
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Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Advice on profiling a high OBA paper
Hi Panagiotis,
i am getting nice results when measuring under M0 and with no compensation.
In this case, resulting print is not perfectly neutral under daylight, there
is slightly cold tone instead, but people are mostly satisfied. And when
print are illuminated with light without UV, the change toward to the warm
tone is smaller. Technically speaking, it is something like a "middle of the
range" as Graeme pointed.
Also good idea is higher GCR, as Daniel suggest, but note, that you can't
avoid changes cold/warm with any GCR setup..What is your workflow? With some
RIP, it could be possible to print on your printer in CMYK mode, it is just
a matter of driver/RIP (imho, Colorproof XF can do this).
Kudos to Samule for Acrylite suggestion!
Best,
Kamil
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 7:31 PM Panagiotis Markolefas
<panagiotismarkolefas@xxxxxxxxx <
mailto:panagiotismarkolefas@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi, Kamil
Thanks for your response. So your suggestion is to just build a profile
without taking any special care about the high OBAs in the paper. Correct?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 7:47 PM Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:kamil.tresnak@xxxxxxxxx> >
wrote:
Hi Panagiotis,
just a quick note, no matter what parameters and what software you will
use, if your paper is "full of OBA" and viewing conditions will be changing
substantially, you run into the troubles, especially for BW photo.
My personal opinion - it is better to not compensate OBA in full. If you
"omit" some amount of OBA, then your print will look more neutral under
illumination with a small portion of UV, and somewhat colder under
illumination with the standard portion of UV, which is probably more
acceptable for common viewers (my experience, not an absolute one and only
truth).
Best regards
Kamil, Prague
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:25 PM Panagiotis Markolefas
<panagiotismarkolefas@xxxxxxxxx <
mailto:panagiotismarkolefas@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi!
I want to make with i1pro2 a printer profile for a paper full of OBAs.
The paper is Hahnemuhle Baryta FB 350. It has a strong magenta cast. Most of
the prints will be BW and are going to be seen under various lighting
conditions. What Argyll options should I use for building the profile?
Thanks in advance for any input.
Panagiotis
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