>he works with Delle's husband Pat Hanrahan, at Stanford But Pat left Stanford a year ago, no, longer than that, to do that high profile info viz startup in Seattle. Can't recall the name (getting old here I'm afraid). Jock Mackinlay went there also. Mark Vershel was last seen at some VC firm in Menlo Park, I think up on Sand Hill Road near 280, where the vultures roost. Maybe he lives in PA?