[analogorgans] Re: Fwd: Speakers/volume/tuning
- From: "Owen Jones" <solovox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <analogorgans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:24:37 +1000
Owen
http://theatreorgans.com/owenjones/
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[mailto:analogorgans-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karen Lewis
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2006 12:52 PM
To: analogorgans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [analogorgans] Re: Fwd: Speakers/volume/tuning
Thanks, Owen, I think so too;Not a very good pic, tho, I have taken some
others but haven't downloaded them from my camera.I still have to knock out
some dents and polish the pipes a little and find some way to keep them from
vibrating at higher volumes.
[Owen ] Stuff some fibre bond (used in speaker boxes) down them; that should
solve the vibrating problem.
The pipes are held in place at the top by a finishing nail that slide into a
corresponding "U" that's soldered onto the pipe.On a pipe organ, the "nails"
are wood pegs.Why Johannus used this method, I don't know. It's not a good
method.I'm thinking maybe putting some pieces of real small diameter plastic
tubing on the nails might solve the problem.
[Owen ] Yes anything like that will help
Cheers, Karen
Karen C. Lewis
Organist
Holy Cross Catholic Church
Cross City,FL
AGO member
----- Original Message ----
From: Owen Jones <solovox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: analogorgans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 10:20:46 PM
Subject: [analogorgans] Re: Fwd: Speakers/volume/tuning
Karen that looks fantastic
cheers
Owen Jones
http://theatreorgans.com/owenjones/
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[mailto:analogorgans-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karen Lewis
Sent: Sunday, 15 October 2006 11:43 AM
To: analogorgans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [analogorgans] Re: Fwd: Speakers/volume/tuning
Here's a picture of my beautiful Rodgers with its new pipe facade/speaker
enclosure. Thanks, Charles for your suggestion, I didn/'t even know there
was a control under the keydesk.Pulled the organ away from the wall today
(thank God for sliders!)and started finetuning the volume; did the
great/pedal today and will finish up tomorrow.I've had a dictionary of organ
stops which really came in handy since it gives the value of each stop from
p to f and in between.It's made a tremendous difference----- it even sounds
less out of tune.
Karen C. Lewis
Organist
Holy Cross Catholic Church
Cross City,FL
AGO member
----- Original Message ----
From: milton miller <mrcool6020002003@xxxxxxxxx>
To: analogorgans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:15:01 AM
Subject: [analogorgans] Re: Fwd: Speakers/volume/tuning
karen; is there any way you could send a picture of that organ?i played a
750 scarborough for 19 years at a lutheran church here in the detroit aea.
milt. nice to hear you got some speakers.
Charles Strack <voceumana@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rodgers of that vintage usually have an air sound
control; sometimes there is a switch underneath the
console desk (slide switch) around the C above middle
C that turns the air sound on and off; if that switch
is there, try moving it from side to side; in the off
position the switch should make the hiss less
apparent.
If there is no on/off switch, the air sound may just
be set too high; the manual should indicate where the
adjustments are, and you can try adjusting for less
air sound.
The diapason keyers have an adjustment to reduce the
bleed through in the off state; try adjusting this to
reduce hiss.
Finally, the diode keyers used in Rodgers are somewhat
leaky, and there is some noise and hiss present even
when all the stops and keys are off--you just have to
live with that in general.
Charlie
--- Karen Lewis wrote:
> Guess I had the address wrong on this------ bounced
> back.
>
> Karen Lewis wrote: Date:
> Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Karen Lewis
> Subject: Speakers/volume/tuning
> To: analogorgans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi gang! Since you all had such great suggestions
> on how to solve Kens problems, I thought I'd try to
> get some info on how to get my 750BE in playable
> condition. When I got the organ there were no
> speakers with it & the church had no idea where they
> went (it hadn't been played in years.) I was almost
> ready to buy some when this happened: I had listed
> my Allen organ for sale on several of the online
> classified websites.On one of the sites under WANTED
> I had asked for some pipes to make a facade for the
> top of the Rodgers. One day I got an e-mail from the
> owner of DMP Classical Organs in CA. Has anyone ever
> heard of them? I hadn't.They make organs as well as
> player pianos.The gentleman had seen my ad and had
> something I might be interested in. In his warehouse
> in Texas he had the top of a Johannus organ which
> had beautiful polished tin pipes very artfully
> displayed in 5 "towers", 3 of which contained
> speakers!!! The church that bought the organ did'nt
> want the top.I was
> using the 4 large speakers from my Allen and the
> organ didn't sound good at all.My husband hooked up
> the tower and we couldn't believe the difference! It
> sounded like an entirely different instrument.The
> chiff was now audible which it wasn't before
> .Everything sounded better. Okay, now I've got great
> sound, except for: 1) there is a lot of speaker
> hiss. This may be due to:power cord too close to
> speaker wires.Or, the overall volume is way too
> loud.Or? (in case these things don't work) 2) It
> needs tuning.The more stops you add the flatter it
> sounds, especially when you put the mixture on top.I
> know it's going to cost a lot to have a Rodgers tech
> to come.The Rodgers dealers are in Tallahasee or
> Tampa , both of which are 3-4 hours from me.The tech
> from Jacksonville (2 1/2 hours away )doesn't work on
> Rodgers, only Allen. My husband has basic knowledge
> with electronics.We have the service manual.How
> difficult is it to lower the volume, tune & balance
> it? I'm sure he could do
> it if someone could walk him through it.Finally, my
> Allen ADC 2000 is still for sale. I got a lot of
> scam offers from the classifieds.Then I had it on
> E-bay and didn't get a single bid. There was another
> Allen with drawbars and large capture action going
> at the same time that got all the attention. So, if
> anyone knows of someone that needs a cheap practice
> organ, or a church, steer them my way.The ADC
> doesn't have much of a capture action, only 7
> factory set presets X 2 memories plus the card
> reader. It has a nice sound, and really is ideal for
> a small church that just needs a basic instument for
> hymns, service music, small choir accomp., and
> preludes/postludes that your average volunteer small
> church organist could play.I would like to somewhere
> between 1500.& 2000. for it, but will consider all
> offers.Thanks for reading!!!
>
>
> Karen Lewis
>
> Trenton , FL.
>
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